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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by rob180bhp » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:00 pm

It was a direct swap I even used the 135 rack arms boots and track rod ends, then off for tracking

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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by rob180bhp » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:01 pm

I didn't wire up the servotronic, it's slightly heavey to park but you get used to it

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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by markhurley » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:51 pm

Ian's camber plates are very good I now have a set of the mk2's and the quality and fitment are second to none , I've not had the geo done on the car yet but just with my basic camber gauge I've measured 2.8 degrees of neg camber :D
I've also got m3 arms I highly recommend Ian's plates also fitting is simple I can do both sides in less than an hour , if anyone needs a set fitting in the Essex area let me know my rates are very cheap :wink:
130i Birds B1 suspension,M3 front arms,M3 rear arms,Powerflex inserts ,BMWP strut brace,M135i front brake's,BMWP rear brake's, 28mm M3 front roll bar,20mm white line rear roll bar ,Quaife LSD,MPSCup2tyre's.

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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by markhurley » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:52 pm

rob180bhp wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:01 pm
I didn't wire up the servotronic, it's slightly heavey to park but you get used to it

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Wish I could have an m3 rack :(
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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by Poormans » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:26 pm

rob180bhp wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:18 pm
Anything is possible if you want it bad enough I guess
Well, you promote it here and there. And I feel safer with a bit more feedback (hydraulic) and doesn't any keen driver want his car nice and responsive.. 8)
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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by sixpistons » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:24 pm

markhurley wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:52 pm
rob180bhp wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:01 pm
I didn't wire up the servotronic, it's slightly heavey to park but you get used to it

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Wish I could have an m3 rack :(
Pump/lines/rack etc should swap over - I'm pretty sure it would be possible provided you could code it. US spec N52 engined 1 series kept the hydraulic rack until they went out of production so there may be a way - probably need to code out the 'CO2 package' that EPAS was part of. I can't find anyone who's tried it though.
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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by Graearea » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:49 pm

I want an m3 rack. It's the only thing I really want to do to the car. Just haven't got a garage to do it in :(


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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by markhurley » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:49 am

sixpistons wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:24 pm
markhurley wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:52 pm
rob180bhp wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:01 pm
I didn't wire up the servotronic, it's slightly heavey to park but you get used to it

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Wish I could have an m3 rack :(
Pump/lines/rack etc should swap over - I'm pretty sure it would be possible provided you could code it. US spec N52 engined 1 series kept the hydraulic rack until they went out of production so there may be a way - probably need to code out the 'CO2 package' that EPAS was part of. I can't find anyone who's tried it though.
Would be a lot of hassle for me , I've got epas on mine.
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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by THETYRANT » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:10 am

Would be nice to get either M3 rack or just older HPAs steering onto the facelift cars but looks like fair bit of hassle, im getting used to the Epas on my new 130 but its not a patch pre-facelift hydraulic steering setup from my last 130's and 135s, coming straight from a GT86 as well doesn't help as steering feel on those is amazing, its ok though and much nicer in town/parking etc you just need to be more sensitive to things when out on road pressing on as not much information coming through the wheel itself.
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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by Poormans » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:01 am

That's what I used to like about an old car with a manual rack. A slippery road could be instantly felt through the steering wheel, which is a valuable warning. Not so sure how the epas will be in similar iffy conditions.. but if a muddy road is anything to go by, it won't be much good :roll:
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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by markhurley » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:15 pm

THETYRANT wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:10 am
Would be nice to get either M3 rack or just older HPAs steering onto the facelift cars but looks like fair bit of hassle, im getting used to the Epas on my new 130 but its not a patch pre-facelift hydraulic steering setup from my last 130's and 135s, coming straight from a GT86 as well doesn't help as steering feel on those is amazing, its ok though and much nicer in town/parking etc you just need to be more sensitive to things when out on road pressing on as not much information coming through the wheel itself.
Get some pics up of the new car mate
130i Birds B1 suspension,M3 front arms,M3 rear arms,Powerflex inserts ,BMWP strut brace,M135i front brake's,BMWP rear brake's, 28mm M3 front roll bar,20mm white line rear roll bar ,Quaife LSD,MPSCup2tyre's.

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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by THETYRANT » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:26 pm

markhurley wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:15 pm
Get some pics up of the new car mate

Haha yeah I will do when I stop driving it to take some :) thread will be going up once I get some pictures sorted :P
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Camber plate project - http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=96465

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Re: Alternative to m3 arms

Post by jonwilli » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:45 pm

Having been driving my girlfriends pre facelift 130i (Cupsters old car) for nearly a month and myself owning an E81 for over five years, I would agree the HPAS is better than EPAS, but not by as much as I was expecting. The EPAS is very light in town and at slow speeds which dare I say it is actually quite useful at times. Out on the road the EPAS weights up, but does lack much feel, but is accurate and precise, you soon get used to it. The HPAS is better but is hardly dripping with feel and feedback. I am interested in seeing what the EPAS is like with front M3 arms and some of Tyrants camber plates and what the HPAS is like with some new front tyres.
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