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New tyres

Post by YLS » Thu May 17, 2018 11:50 am

It's getting towards that time where I need to replace tyres. I'll be doing all 4 at the same time, and considering replacing the runflats with non-runflats. I've got tyre goo, plugs and a compressor in the car anyway, so fairly happy with the puncture risk from that point of view.

It's a standard 2006 M47 120d, but likely getting remapped, and I do enjoy driving it, IYSWIM. About half of my miles are on duals/motorways, and the other half on NE/Highland A-roads. A couple of trips abroad in the summer, so long motorway miles in hot weather. Usually about 20k miles/year in total. I have winter tyres, so don't need snow performance, just normal UK 3 seasons. Will also be putting rear subframe bush inserts in shortly, but no other plans for anything. Alignment is all correct and standard. I want predictable grip, and decent tyre wear. Looking at upto around £80/corner from blackcircles.

I'm tempted by Goodyear as they've got an appealing cashback offer this month, but open to any suggestions. Are there any well recommended/common swaps from runflats to non-runflats? Anything in particular to be aware of, like tyre/rim compatability, or insurance issues?

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Re: New tyres

Post by marco_polo » Thu May 17, 2018 11:54 am

What size tyres do you want? Are the fronts a 50 profile?
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Re: New tyres

Post by YLS » Thu May 17, 2018 12:07 pm

Annoyingly I don't have the car with me to check... Putting my reg into blackcircles gives 205/55/R16, but I'll need to double check that tonight.

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Re: New tyres

Post by YLS » Thu May 17, 2018 7:26 pm

Glad I checked...

195/55 R16 91V on there at the moment.

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Re: New tyres

Post by marco_polo » Thu May 17, 2018 8:08 pm

My money would go here, in this exact size and load rating: https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop ... p=R-339006

195/55 are both narrow (for a remapped 120d), and slightly small on diameter too.
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Re: New tyres

Post by YLS » Thu May 17, 2018 9:55 pm

Ooh interesting, thanks. Is it ok to put wider tyres on then? Will a garage question it? Never changed tyre size on any car before, just different brands/models of the same size.

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Re: New tyres

Post by marco_polo » Thu May 17, 2018 11:12 pm

On a 6.5" wide rim you can safely go up to a 215mm tyre, but 205/55/16 is the correct size for your car.

For example, these are 16" x 6.5J standard E87 wheels, fitted with 205/55/16 from the factory: http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/bmw_al ... wheel_1028
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Re: New tyres

Post by YLS » Fri May 18, 2018 9:15 am

Thanks for that, much appreciated. I'll take a wheel off later to check it's 6.5".

This is what's on there now. These tyres were fitted by BMW for the previous owner. Strange that they're too narrow, straight from the dealer. Perhaps not so strange actually...

https://ibb.co/nrRxmJ

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Re: New tyres

Post by marco_polo » Fri May 18, 2018 9:31 am

They're style 139 - 6.5Jx16 ET42 , which will easily take a 205/55 tyre.

You can fit a skinny 195/55 on them, but I'd reserve that size for winter tyres only, personally.
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Re: New tyres

Post by Probocop » Fri May 18, 2018 10:35 am

+1 on the PS4's, they're fantastic.

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Re: New tyres

Post by YLS » Fri May 18, 2018 12:00 pm

Just realised the link Marco Polo posted didn't include fitting. Probably should have said I'm looking for about £80 per corner as a fitted price, sorry! Just been reading about the PS4, sounds like a great tyre though! Can't stretch to almost £400 for a set unfortunately.

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Re: New tyres

Post by marco_polo » Fri May 18, 2018 12:16 pm

Not many people make decent tyres in 55 profile, not sure what else to suggest.
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Re: New tyres

Post by Toed64 » Fri May 18, 2018 12:53 pm

marco_polo wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 12:16 pm
Not many people make decent tyres in 55 profile, not sure what else to suggest.
Very true...

You could check prices for good brands of 205/50/16 tyres that are a slightly more common/sporty size. It's often worth checking to see what sizes of tyre can be fitted to the wheels because rim sizes are tending to get bigger and tyres both wider and lower profile on modern cars.

I recently opted for a pair of Vredestein Ultrac Vortis on the back of my 130i because they were £50 each cheaper than Michelin Pilot Sports...& I know from my own experience that they are good and wear quite slowly too. However, I did end up buying tyres one section wider (255) to get the best price.

Marco's Michelin suggestion is still probably the best and actually likely to be one of the most cost effective, because Michelins tend to last longer than many other brands. Budget tyres frequently wear very quickly and consequently can be more expensive in the long run.
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Re: New tyres

Post by YLS » Fri May 18, 2018 1:04 pm

Yep, fully aware of budget tyres wearing fast. But also changing/degrading compound thoughout the tread depth. I had some really cheap front tyres on an old 320d banger and when there was about 5mm tread left they understeered like crazy in the damp, as if someone had covered them in oil. It was just the compound was crap, either dergraded massively in a year, or changed as they wore. Put them on the back and it was much more fun!
On an old WRX I had Goodyear Eagle Assy F1 and they were great, but wore out in no time. The Bridgestone RE002 on before that lasted ages but were rubbish in terms of wet grip. On that car, the F1s were better for grip, but who's to say there weren't another 50 tyre choices that would've been better again?
So many people have their own opinions about tyres and what the best tyre is, but in reality they've had such a small sample of tyres that they've tried on a particular car that it's hard to believe what they say due to their tiny sample size. It's really nice here though that everyone seems to agree on the PS4! And thanks everyone for your opinions, it's really appreciated, even though I am a fussy customer! I'll do some sums and see if I can justify the extra cash for them. But regardless, I'll go for 205/55 anyway. Thanks.

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