N47 Timing chain info thread *QUALITY ENHANCEMENT/RECALL ISSUED* - please read before posting

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Post by joesmith1992 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:34 pm

I've looked a lot online and seen no reports of any post 2009 n47 failing. I understand it can still be an issue, but where is the proof?

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Post by rob180bhp » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:59 pm

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R5_RXK wrote: You'll be fine....forums are very good at scaremongering as I've found out. Where are all the stories of the cars that have had no issues? hardly any apparently..
Ok if it is scare mongering? What will be your comment to the same person if his chain did snap in a few thousand miles? And be honest?

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Well what would be your comment if he scraps the car at 200k all fine? Personally I see it as a potential issue but I do 20k a year in a remapped 2007 n47 120d averaging 60 mpg plus now. 700 + miles between fill ups only issue ever in 125k was a failed thermostat loom. I do 7k oil changes though so certainly wouldn't buy a 100k plus car with only the standard 24k between oil changes. All cars have their issues even the 3 litre petrols. If you want reliability buy Jap and not these European models that will only guarantee their cars for 3 years.

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Post by rob180bhp » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:01 pm

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rob180bhp wrote:Ok if it is scare mongering? What will be your comment to the same person if his chain did snap in a few thousand miles? And be honest?

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Well what would be your comment if he scraps the car at 200k all fine? Personally I see it as a potential issue but I do 20k a year in a remapped 2007 n47 120d averaging 60 mpg plus now. 700 + miles between fill ups only issue ever in 125k was a failed thermostat loom. I do 7k oil changes though so certainly wouldn't buy a 100k plus car with only the standard 24k between oil changes. All cars have their issues even the 3 litre petrols. If you want reliability buy Jap and not these European models that will only guarantee their cars for 3 years.

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Post by rob180bhp » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:06 pm

This is a thread that anyone can read then make your own disicions

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Post by Jwilkes » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:58 pm

chandler wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:02 pm
rob180bhp wrote:
R5_RXK wrote:
You'll be fine....forums are very good at scaremongering as I've found out. Where are all the stories of the cars that have had no issues? hardly any apparently..
Ok if it is scare mongering? What will be your comment to the same person if his chain did snap in a few thousand miles? And be honest?

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Well what would be your comment if he scraps the car at 200k all fine? Personally I see it as a potential issue but I do 20k a year in a remapped 2007 n47 120d averaging 60 mpg plus now. 700 + miles between fill ups only issue ever in 125k was a failed thermostat loom. I do 7k oil changes though so certainly wouldn't buy a 100k plus car with only the standard 24k between oil changes. All cars have their issues even the 3 litre petrols. If you want reliability buy Jap and not these European models that will only guarantee their cars for 3 years.

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Does yours make the timing chain noise as the revs build up or does it not make a ticking noise?

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Post by MontegoBlue » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:10 pm

Jwilkes wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:58 pm
chandler wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:02 pm
rob180bhp wrote:Ok if it is scare mongering? What will be your comment to the same person if his chain did snap in a few thousand miles? And be honest?

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Well what would be your comment if he scraps the car at 200k all fine? Personally I see it as a potential issue but I do 20k a year in a remapped 2007 n47 120d averaging 60 mpg plus now. 700 + miles between fill ups only issue ever in 125k was a failed thermostat loom. I do 7k oil changes though so certainly wouldn't buy a 100k plus car with only the standard 24k between oil changes. All cars have their issues even the 3 litre petrols. If you want reliability buy Jap and not these European models that will only guarantee their cars for 3 years.

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Does yours make the timing chain noise as the revs build up or does it not make a ticking noise?
My old 2008 N47 made chuffing noise with revs increasing and had the ticking noise, still going strong at 179k, and my new 2012 N47 engined 3er is exactly the same.
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Post by chandler » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:51 pm

MontegoBlue wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:10 pm
Jwilkes wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:58 pm
chandler wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:02 pm
Well what would be your comment if he scraps the car at 200k all fine? Personally I see it as a potential issue but I do 20k a year in a remapped 2007 n47 120d averaging 60 mpg plus now. 700 + miles between fill ups only issue ever in 125k was a failed thermostat loom. I do 7k oil changes though so certainly wouldn't buy a 100k plus car with only the standard 24k between oil changes. All cars have their issues even the 3 litre petrols. If you want reliability buy Jap and not these European models that will only guarantee their cars for 3 years.

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Does yours make the timing chain noise as the revs build up or does it not make a ticking noise?
My old 2008 N47 made chuffing noise with revs increasing and had the ticking noise, still going strong at 179k, and my new 2012 N47 engined 3er is exactly the same.
Mine is exactly the same, they aren't quiet engines they chuff and tick since 40k now at 125k. Does do 60+ mpg though!

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Post by DGJ123d » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:17 pm

Mine is ticking, just picked it up on 130k and it's a regular consistent tick rather than a sporadic or irregular tapping like most of the videos of seen. Hopefully this is a good sign or it being general engine noise as it's had full BMW service history and otherwise is fine.

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Post by GDZAR » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:45 am

Hi - I'm new around here - And I'm aware that this is a 1 & 2 series forum, although I share the same engine N47D,

I've been battling for 6months trying to find a metallic rattling sound coming from the bottom, I've done and replaced the following
- Timing chain kit, including sprockets and tensioners,
- Engine bearings
- Piston rings,
- Head gasket and bolts,

I did the work myself as it was 10times worse after coming from an "APPROVED" BMW Workshop,

Please take a listen and give me some insight if possible - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e94TCKTIrms
Engine has 150 000km's,

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Post by ahoysam » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:45 pm

Warning! I had my chain replaced by Arden BMW Maidstone as part of the quality enhancement. It failed two and a half years later. Now they want to charge me £500 to see why :?

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Post by stevesurrey » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:24 pm

Sorry to hear that, and I hope you can get it sorted. Think its the first of the QE replaced chains that we've heard of on the forum subsequently failing. Which engine is it, how many miles had it done and what were your oil change intervals like ?
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Post by Nannymc » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:42 pm

Hi I'm sorry to jump on your thread. I have a 64 plate Toyota Verso its 3 years old and has 92K on the clock. It's been well maintained serviced every 9-10 k and guess what the timing chain has snapped without any warning, no annoying rattle. I was surprised to find out it had an N47 BMW engine in. Toyota are refusing tho repair it under warranty and have quoted £6k to fix it. I'm disgusted to hear BMW sold these engines on knowing there was an issue. Toyota even sent their technicians an email a couple of days before my chain broke dashing there wad an issue.

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Post by marco_polo » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:45 pm

Nannymc wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:43 pm
Hi I'm sorry to jump on your thread. I have a 64 plate Toyota Verso its 3 years old and has 92K on the clock. It's been well maintained serviced every 9-10 k and guess what the timing chain has snapped without any warning, no annoying rattle. I was surprised to find out it had an N47 BMW engine in. Toyota are refusing tho repair it under warranty and have quoted £6k to fix it. I'm disgusted to hear BMW sold these engines on knowing there was an issue. Toyota even sent their technicians an email a couple of days before my chain broke dashing there wad an issue.
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Post by rob180bhp » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:31 pm

But apparently it's all scare mongering??? Lol I think not

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Post by R5_RXK » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:00 pm

rob180bhp wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:31 pm
But apparently it's all scare mongering??? Lol I think not

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