N47 Timing chain info thread *QUALITY ENHANCEMENT/RECALL ISSUED* - please read before posting

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Post by emachine » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:06 pm

workshop says no callback, recall etc. I will change it all myself without removing the engine and post the process here. Good luck fellow n47 owners.

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Post by rob180bhp » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:38 pm

This will be interesting have you ever changed the chains on an n47 before?

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Post by emachine » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:45 am

Hi, I have only changed on Mercedes-Benz diesels. Scary job but I have guts :D I will try to do it without removing the engine. I saw few videos on youtube people changing them without removing the engine and seemed quite possible

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Post by rob180bhp » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:49 am

Anything is possible, I have done a chain but would it do one in place? I wouldn't try it, it isn't worth the hassle it's a difficult job to start with without adding trying to do it in place to the equation



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Post by emachine » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:57 am

I guess I will find out when I remove the transmission and top of the engine. A Mercedes-Benz mechanic will help me during the process. I have hydraulic lift and every possible tools for this job (except camshaft and crankshaft locks).

The BMW service asked 3000€ plus extras including lubricants, oil filter and gaskets. If I attempt to fix myself it will cost only max 400€.

By the way, the vehicle is 2008 E60 LCI

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Post by Orrange28 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:42 pm

I paid ~800 € for the job, parts and oils.
But 40k km later chain noise is back. :(
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Post by MontegoBlue » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:43 pm

Orrange28 wrote:I paid ~800 € for the job, parts and oils.
But 40k km later chain noise is back. :(
The noise has nothing to do with the integrity of the chain. Some fail with no noise...put some thicker oil in it (5w40) LL04 :) I tried some Lucas Oil Stabilizer few oil changes back, wowza that quietened it down, but the noise came back, classic N47 sound I hear daily on the commute in every 4 cylinder BMW.
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Post by mehman » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:28 pm

Thinking of buying a 2013 1er with 23k miles. Am I right in assuming this age shouldn't be affected by the timing belt issue?

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Post by rob180bhp » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:31 pm

MontegoBlue wrote:
Orrange28 wrote:I paid ~800 € for the job, parts and oils.
But 40k km later chain noise is back. :(
The noise has nothing to do with the integrity of the chain. Some fail with no noise...put some thicker oil in it (5w40) LL04 :) I tried some Lucas Oil Stabilizer few oil changes back, wowza that quietened it down, but the noise came back, classic N47 sound I hear daily on the commute in every 4 cylinder BMW.
I recently changed a chain due to noises and when I stripped it, I wasnt sure what was making the noise hence I changed everything

It cured the noise but no idea what part was causing it

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Post by MontegoBlue » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:35 pm

Yeah I have heard this, but the noise appears again very shortly after replacment.

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Post by RAUL-87 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:17 pm

Hi Guys.

Not sure if it's been mentioned. But for everyone with a later model / year and concerned about their timing chain... call your local dealer and speak to the servicing department, give them your VIN number, and ask them to check the build date of your engine.

It appears even with a new model and thinking your outside the window of failures... you could still have an engine that was manufactured at the time of the faulty parts.

As i said above.. sorry if this has been previously mentioned, however I thought it may prove to be of use to other members!
Luckily BMW confirmed my 2012 E82's engine was out side of that frame even after checking my VIN :shock: - Thank god!
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Post by emachine » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:56 am

I started it, little scared and decided to share with you:
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Post by vanderbart » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:08 pm

Hi guys!
I'm new to this forum and want to be a BMW owner finally.
I need some advice.
Tomorrow (14/10/2016) I'm going to see a 59 plate BMW 318d (do have a full number plate if needed).
I have found it for quite a good price of £5200 with 107k.

Now after reading lots of posts on this forum I'm seriously worried.

I need some advice. This car is about £1000 cheaper than the others and I'd rather risk s £1000 and have it repaired myself if needed or risk a more expensive without knowing if it's been repaired previously.

Is there any chance I could check myself if timidity chain has been done in the past?
I was even thinking of getting a RAC warranty

What do you guys think? I need honest advice. I really like the car and spec, and price of course.
Thanks
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Post by stevesurrey » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:20 pm

Previous owners should know - is there any paperwork to evidence it?
BMW UK might know if they did the work under warranty and/or goodwill following a problem.
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Post by redwizard » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:38 pm

The BMW warranty (usually the only one worth getting) only covers a "lifetime" usage of 100,000 miles so warranties will be no help here.

Two things in it's favour :-
It's a 59 plate (like mine) so will have most of the "fixes" anyway.
It's done over 100,000 miles so is unlikely to have "faulty" parts (most failures are between 38,000 and 60,000).

Not saying that's it's in perfect shape though, so check it thoroughly before buying, just bear in mind that all N47s have noisy cam chains.

As you say, you should be able to get all the chains and tensioners replaced for around £1000
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