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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by Speedychuck » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:58 pm

Salad wrote:Come on fellas where your sense of fun and a little bit of danger...!?

Of course I'd be safe and considerate to other road users but what's the point of buying the only rear wheel drive in it's class If you can't hang the ass out... This is the point surely..,!???
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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by Benis » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:57 pm

When I bought my M135i from BMW the dealer told me to be careful because the car records the vehicle settings on a rolling 50 miles, which the insurer can request from the police/approved repairer. If they see you'd turned off all the nannies they can simply refuse to pay out.

Not sure if he was telling pork pies but doing so didn't seem to net him any benefit, thus I'm not inclined to disbelieve him!

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Post by Gimbal » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:34 pm

Benis wrote:When I bought my M135i from BMW the dealer told me to be careful because the car records the vehicle settings on a rolling 50 miles, which the insurer can request from the police/approved repairer. If they see you'd turned off all the nannies they can simply refuse to pay out.

Not sure if he was telling pork pies but doing so didn't seem to net him any benefit, thus I'm not inclined to disbelieve him!
That does seem weird though, I have never heard of an insurance company that states that you have to drive in certain modes. But I guess it's another thing if they can se that you have been driving waay over speed limit right before the accident.

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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by Benis » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:56 pm

I agree with you. I'm gonna read through my Ts and Cs tonight and see if there is anything in there that voids a policy if you disable safety features on public roads.

I can see it being a thing, unfortunately, much as I'd like it not to be. Insurers will use any excuse.

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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by HammyUK » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:09 pm

If you really believe that the police investigation teams don't have access to technology equal and greater than that of the service centre then you really should hand your keys over and sit on the special bus with your bump cap on.
Your car records EVERYTHING whether you want it to or not.
They can, will and have prosecuted drivers after interrogating the ECU's of crashed vehicles.

If the OP wants to be a total f*ckwit on the road then he can jog on and do so - just stay the hell away from anywhere near where me, my friends and family are because he won't like the consequences when he gets it wrong.
Which he will.
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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by Twenny » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:30 pm

He's got plenty wrong already.

Posting on a public forum for one.

Expecting us to be impressed that he can drive like a cnut for two.

Strange character. Oh well let's hope when he gets it wrong he hits a lamp post rather than someone's car or worse.


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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by davidv111 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:37 pm

HammyUK wrote:If you really believe that the police investigation teams don't have access to technology equal and greater than that of the service centre then you really should hand your keys over and sit on the special bus with your bump cap on.
Your car records EVERYTHING whether you want it to or not.
They can, will and have prosecuted drivers after interrogating the ECU's of crashed vehicles.

If the OP wants to be a total f*ckwit on the road then he can jog on and do so - just stay the hell away from anywhere near where me, my friends and family are because he won't like the consequences when he gets it wrong.
Which he will.
Exactly this. About a year or so there was a crash that involved a Range Rover in a 30mph limit, it hit a family and wiped them out, the police were able to tell that at the moment of the crash the ecu was recording 73mph - they can find what ever they want
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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by Speedychuck » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:10 pm

davidv111 wrote:
HammyUK wrote:If you really believe that the police investigation teams don't have access to technology equal and greater than that of the service centre then you really should hand your keys over and sit on the special bus with your bump cap on.
Your car records EVERYTHING whether you want it to or not.
They can, will and have prosecuted drivers after interrogating the ECU's of crashed vehicles.

If the OP wants to be a total f*ckwit on the road then he can jog on and do so - just stay the hell away from anywhere near where me, my friends and family are because he won't like the consequences when he gets it wrong.
Which he will.
Exactly this. About a year or so there was a crash that involved a Range Rover in a 30mph limit, it hit a family and wiped them out, the police were able to tell that at the moment of the crash the ecu was recording 73mph - they can find what ever they want
Some of this is true I'm sure. Some cars record a snapshot when the airbags are deployed. I seem to remember I could pull it up in my old S3 using VAGcom. Whether they record everything in normal driving conditions is another matter. There's a lot of data there and I simply don't think the car would be able to store it.
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Post by HammyUK » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:21 pm

Speedychuck wrote:
davidv111 wrote:
HammyUK wrote:If you really believe that the police investigation teams don't have access to technology equal and greater than that of the service centre then you really should hand your keys over and sit on the special bus with your bump cap on.
Your car records EVERYTHING whether you want it to or not.
They can, will and have prosecuted drivers after interrogating the ECU's of crashed vehicles.

If the OP wants to be a total f*ckwit on the road then he can jog on and do so - just stay the hell away from anywhere near where me, my friends and family are because he won't like the consequences when he gets it wrong.
Which he will.
Exactly this. About a year or so there was a crash that involved a Range Rover in a 30mph limit, it hit a family and wiped them out, the police were able to tell that at the moment of the crash the ecu was recording 73mph - they can find what ever they want
Some of this is true I'm sure. Some cars record a snapshot when the airbags are deployed. I seem to remember I could pull it up in my old S3 using VAGcom. Whether they record everything in normal driving conditions is another matter. There's a lot of data there and I simply don't think the car would be able to store it.
Think about how much information is stored on your phone.
32/64/128GB? More?
Then think about how small a microsSD card is.
Then think about how big an ECU is and how big the processing chips are and the processing power it has in comparison to your phone.
Then think again about just how much information it can store.

I've sat in the workshop at Broadcut whilst they "officially" wiped all the programming from my 330D M-Tech I bought from Hants Police.
They could go back over 30days to any point and see throttle position, speed, gear, etc, etc , etc.
That was a 54 plate.
I've been asked if I want the ECU "looking" at on the M135 to make sure its "ok ;) "
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Post by Speedychuck » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:30 pm

HammyUK wrote:
Speedychuck wrote:
davidv111 wrote:
Exactly this. About a year or so there was a crash that involved a Range Rover in a 30mph limit, it hit a family and wiped them out, the police were able to tell that at the moment of the crash the ecu was recording 73mph - they can find what ever they want
Some of this is true I'm sure. Some cars record a snapshot when the airbags are deployed. I seem to remember I could pull it up in my old S3 using VAGcom. Whether they record everything in normal driving conditions is another matter. There's a lot of data there and I simply don't think the car would be able to store it.
Think about how much information is stored on your phone.
32/64/128GB? More?
Then think about how small a microsSD card is.
Then think about how big an ECU is and how big the processing chips are and the processing power it has in comparison to your phone.
Then think again about just how much information it can store.

I've sat in the workshop at Broadcut whilst they "officially" wiped all the programming from my 330D M-Tech I bought from Hants Police.
They could go back over 30days to any point and see throttle position, speed, gear, etc, etc , etc.
That was a 54 plate.
I've been asked if I want the ECU "looking" at on the M135 to make sure its "ok ;) "
Seems a bit invasive but I certainly can't prove you wrong so I can't disagree with what you say.

330D from the police must have been a weapon. My dad had an ex armed response met police E60 525d. I've never driven such a fast diesel. He wrote that off and just bought an F10 530d ex traffic car. Silly fast for such a big car.
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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by sonnyx » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:17 pm

Invisiblename wrote:
Salad wrote:Come on fellas where your sense of fun and a little bit of danger...!?

Of course I'd be safe and considerate to other road users but what's the point of buying the only rear wheel drive in it's class If you can't hang the ass out... This is the point surely..,!???
Which part of the country do you do most of your "fun"? I want to avoid you like the plague!!
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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by HammyUK » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:35 pm

Speedychuck wrote:
HammyUK wrote:
Speedychuck wrote:
Some of this is true I'm sure. Some cars record a snapshot when the airbags are deployed. I seem to remember I could pull it up in my old S3 using VAGcom. Whether they record everything in normal driving conditions is another matter. There's a lot of data there and I simply don't think the car would be able to store it.
Think about how much information is stored on your phone.
32/64/128GB? More?
Then think about how small a microsSD card is.
Then think about how big an ECU is and how big the processing chips are and the processing power it has in comparison to your phone.
Then think again about just how much information it can store.

I've sat in the workshop at Broadcut whilst they "officially" wiped all the programming from my 330D M-Tech I bought from Hants Police.
They could go back over 30days to any point and see throttle position, speed, gear, etc, etc , etc.
That was a 54 plate.
I've been asked if I want the ECU "looking" at on the M135 to make sure its "ok ;) "
Seems a bit invasive but I certainly can't prove you wrong so I can't disagree with what you say.

330D from the police must have been a weapon. My dad had an ex armed response met police E60 525d. I've never driven such a fast diesel. He wrote that off and just bought an F10 530d ex traffic car. Silly fast for such a big car.
Was a monster! Was covert/armed response too.
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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by neilmcl » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:27 pm

Benis wrote:When I bought my M135i from BMW the dealer told me to be careful because the car records the vehicle settings on a rolling 50 miles, which the insurer can request from the police/approved repairer. If they see you'd turned off all the nannies they can simply refuse to pay out.

Not sure if he was telling pork pies but doing so didn't seem to net him any benefit, thus I'm not inclined to disbelieve him!
I call BS on that I'm afraid.
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Re: Sport mode Vs Sport +

Post by Salad » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:48 pm

Come on fella's there's no need to get so upset and if you don't mind me saying just a little bit paranoid. I don't plan to be hanging the ass out in the town centre just when it's safe to do so. Just near Sonnyx's house for example!!! Hee hee

And for that plank 'Twenny' who mentioned I shouldn't be mentioning it on a public forum...! You need to get out more mate!

My personal opinion is that the insurance companies wouldn't be checking an ECU unless there was a death caused.

Oh by the way, happy new year.

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Post by Invisiblename » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:01 pm

Salad wrote:Come on fella's there's no need to get so upset and if you don't mind me saying just a little bit paranoid. I don't plan to be hanging the ass out in the town centre just when it's safe to do so. Just near Sonnyx's house for example!!! Hee hee

And for that plank 'Twenny' who mentioned I shouldn't be mentioning it on a public forum...! You need to get out more mate!

My personal opinion is that the insurance companies wouldn't be checking an ECU unless there was a death caused.

Oh by the way, happy new year.
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