118d from a 125d

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118d from a 125d

Postby JB81 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:11 am

Morning,

My lease is due up on my F20 125d shortly and I'm looking for my next car. Loved driving it so want to stay in a 1er if possible, but decent lease deals seem few and far between at the moment.
I've found a fairly good deal for a 118d but not really clued up about the engine.

Am I right in thinking this is a 1996cc, twin turbo but down-tuned to 150Bhp? If so, has anyone had any success in a remap for this?

I don't really thrash my 125d but still think I'd notice a fair performance difference coming 'down' to the 118d...thoughts?

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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby marco_polo » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:15 pm

The 118d only has one small turbo.

You'll really struggle to get permission to remap a leased car, no?
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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby Menace » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:29 pm

Having had a 118d I'd advise you give it a miss especially coming from a 125d.

The 118d is limited with what can be achieved - you'd have more options on a 120d
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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby JB81 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:33 am

marco_polo wrote:You'll really struggle to get permission to remap a leased car, no?


Possibly - a fair amount of the adverts I've seen say 'undetectable'.

Menace wrote:Having had a 118d I'd advise you give it a miss especially coming from a 125d.

The 118d is limited with what can be achieved - you'd have more options on a 120d


Thanks - waiting for a 118d and a 120d to test drive. Sounds like I should hold out for a deal on a 120d rather than go all the way down. That being the case, is it worth the extra for the Sports Auto?
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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby Menace » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:24 pm

JB81 wrote:
marco_polo wrote:You'll really struggle to get permission to remap a leased car, no?


Possibly - a fair amount of the adverts I've seen say 'undetectable'.

Menace wrote:Having had a 118d I'd advise you give it a miss especially coming from a 125d.

The 118d is limited with what can be achieved - you'd have more options on a 120d


Thanks - waiting for a 118d and a 120d to test drive. Sounds like I should hold out for a deal on a 120d rather than go all the way down. That being the case, is it worth the extra for the Sports Auto?
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Hard to advise on what box to go for as it is such a personal thing. As it happened my 118d was a man box with current 135i an auto. On par I certainly don't regret getting the auto although I do like to often throw it into manual mode.

If you do plenty of miles with many of them on the motorway then an auto is prob the way to go.
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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby kriswork » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:55 pm

JB81 wrote:Morning,

My lease is due up on my F20 125d shortly and I'm looking for my next car. Loved driving it so want to stay in a 1er if possible, but decent lease deals seem few and far between at the moment.
I've found a fairly good deal for a 118d but not really clued up about the engine.

Am I right in thinking this is a 1996cc, twin turbo but down-tuned to 150Bhp? If so, has anyone had any success in a remap for this?

I don't really thrash my 125d but still think I'd notice a fair performance difference coming 'down' to the 118d...thoughts?

Cheers.


Was there no option to extend the lease? - Just extended the lease on my 125D until March 2018 at the same monthlies - £250.

The confusion with turbos is they are all labelled "Twin Power" meaning the turbo is a twin scroll type of turbo. So the 125D has 2 twin scroll turbos (1 small and 1 big) and the 118d has 1 twin scroll turbo (just a small one).

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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby JB81 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:53 pm

kriswork wrote:
JB81 wrote:Morning,

My lease is due up on my F20 125d shortly and I'm looking for my next car. Loved driving it so want to stay in a 1er if possible, but decent lease deals seem few and far between at the moment.
I've found a fairly good deal for a 118d but not really clued up about the engine.

Am I right in thinking this is a 1996cc, twin turbo but down-tuned to 150Bhp? If so, has anyone had any success in a remap for this?

I don't really thrash my 125d but still think I'd notice a fair performance difference coming 'down' to the 118d...thoughts?

Cheers.


Was there no option to extend the lease? - Just extended the lease on my 125D until March 2018 at the same monthlies - £250.

The confusion with turbos is they are all labelled "Twin Power" meaning the turbo is a twin scroll type of turbo. So the 125D has 2 twin scroll turbos (1 small and 1 big) and the 118d has 1 twin scroll turbo (just a small one).

Kristian


Thanks for explaining the twin turbo thing Kristian - that's exactly why I was confused, especially when I saw a 116d in the showroom which clearly said "Twin Power turbo" but the salesman insisted it was 'single'. The current 125d is 2x twin scroll but am I right in thinking that the LCI model 120d is still single turbo and that only the 125d remains twin twin?

RE: extending the lease. I haven't thought about that to be honest. This is my first lease car but whilst I'm sure Arval would extend it, I always though that the benefit in leasing was for short term vehicles, in theory before it needs a major service and new tyres?

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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby marco_polo » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:50 pm

JB81 wrote: The current 125d is 2x twin scroll but am I right in thinking that the LCI model 120d is still single turbo and that only the 125d remains twin twin?

125d isn't twin twin-scroll, it's twin standard turbos (one large and one small).

120d is one twin-scroll.
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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby kriswork » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:36 am

marco_polo wrote:
JB81 wrote: The current 125d is 2x twin scroll but am I right in thinking that the LCI model 120d is still single turbo and that only the 125d remains twin twin?

125d isn't twin twin-scroll, it's twin standard turbos (one large and one small).

120d is one twin-scroll.


You learn something new every day - no wonder there is a lot of confusion as it is still labelled as twinpower. I did Google it and I couldn't find any references to the type of turbo fitted to a 125D, but having thought about it, it would be very tight packaging to having 2 lots of split intake manifolds.

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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby philm » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:46 am

kriswork wrote:You learn something new every day - no wonder there is a lot of confusion as it is still labelled as twinpower. I did Google it and I couldn't find any references to the type of turbo fitted to a 125D, but having thought about it, it would be very tight packaging to having 2 lots of split intake manifolds.

Kris


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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby shadwell_lad » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:37 am

kriswork wrote:
Was there no option to extend the lease? - Just extended the lease on my 125D until March 2018 at the same monthlies - £250.

Kristian


I would also suggest looking at the renewal option. I've just renewed my 125d for an additional year with monthlies reducing from £228 to £198. Impossible to get anywhere near that price on new leases and I am happy with the car for another year. Quote for renewal was turned around in a couple of days.

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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby RickN55 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:03 pm

I'd go for a 120d.. Those 118d's are sluggish!
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Re: 118d from a 125d

Postby JB81 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:16 pm

shadwell_lad wrote:
kriswork wrote:
Was there no option to extend the lease? - Just extended the lease on my 125D until March 2018 at the same monthlies - £250.

Kristian


I would also suggest looking at the renewal option. I've just renewed my 125d for an additional year with monthlies reducing from £228 to £198. Impossible to get anywhere near that price on new leases and I am happy with the car for another year. Quote for renewal was turned around in a couple of days.


Cheers Kristian - guessing you got that 'killer' deal on a 125d from Fleetprices in 2015 too? Arval can extend mine, monthlies down from £228 to £208 for 12 months / 10,000.


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