Frameless doors in winter

Adamchase · Post by **Adamchase** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:01 am

So I have been driving a 220i and they have frameless doors, when it was frosty the motor burnt out because the frost wouldn't allow the window to roll down. Now BMW want £220 for parts plus labour. Such a design flaw didn't anyone at BMW think this through.

Kerr · Post by **Kerr** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:11 am

I've had a few coupes and never had this issue.

Motley2012 · Post by **Motley2012** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:14 am

If it is within warranty I would be telling them to Foxtrot Oscar as its clearly not fit for the purpose for which it was designed

philm · Post by **philm** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:43 am

Bar 15 months owning a Leon Cupra I've had coupes with frameless doors for the last 12.5 years and never had an issue.

As said if under warranty BMW should pay to fix it.

Invisiblename · Post by **Invisiblename** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:14 pm

Z4 is prone to this - easily prevented by applying Gummi Pflege to the inside of the window recess. Very common solution with Z4 users

ragpot · Post by **ragpot** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:19 pm

Same on my old Z3M, use gummy pflegde also stops raid getting in. Perfect for sunroof too.

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sonnyx · Post by **sonnyx** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:22 pm

I also have had three different BMW's with frame-less and no issue.
The wicked bad winter we had five years ago i had to clear the solid ice from the bottom before attempting to open the car.

DigitalRogue · Post by **DigitalRogue** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:45 pm

Been using an e36 318is for work and have been locked out on several frosty mornings

but the car is 19 years old. I just defrost now with some tepid water to free up the glass.

OneTwenty · Post by **OneTwenty** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:08 pm

Always had frameless and have been stuck many times waiting for the windows to defrost before I could open the door.

Providing you plan ahead and have de-icer when away from home, or hot water when at home you can simply defrost the lower seal before opening the door. My old Mr2 was even worse, the door used to freeze solid on that.

moulin12 · Post by **moulin12** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:25 pm

ragpot wrote:Same on my old Z3M, use gummy pflegde also stops raid getting in. Perfect for sunroof too.

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+1

But if the car is within is within warranty then the onus of proof over fair use has to be on bmw.

Invisiblename · Post by **Invisiblename** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:35 pm

moulin12 wrote:
ragpot wrote:Same on my old Z3M, use gummy pflegde also stops raid getting in. Perfect for sunroof too.

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+1

But if the car is within is within warranty then the onus of proof over fair use has to be on bmw.

Maybe.... but not much help when you're frozen out of the car!

neil278 · Post by **neil278** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:10 am

Maybe try a different dealer to do what should be a warranty job

Invisiblename · Post by **Invisiblename** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:35 am

neil278 wrote:Maybe try a different dealer to do what should be a warranty job

Sorry, this wasn't with reference to the original post!

Adamchase · Post by **Adamchase** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:53 pm

Hi guys I have been called today and was told that the original person I spoke to shouldn't have said that I will have to pay for it and book your car in under warranty.

Voicon · Post by **Voicon** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:02 pm

Adamchase wrote:Hi guys I have been called today and was told that the original person I spoke to shouldn't have said that I will have to pay for it and book your car in under warranty.

Good result.

I've never had thus problem on my cars.

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