BMW OBD STOP LOCK

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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by mrash » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:08 pm

I agree the surrounding trim just is NOT sturdy enough. You could easily use a screwdriver to wedge the proposed device out with ease. However, I guess the point that it is actually a deterrent, and, you may have to get more inside the car to prise it off, thus setting off the alarm by having to move out of its blind spot?
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by marco_polo » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:17 pm

You wouldn't want to set off the ear-splitting, air raid siren that lurks below the bonnet! :lol:

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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Nick_in_Suffolk » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:31 pm

I think most of the replies are far too negative. NOTHING is ever going to stop your car being stolen by a thief, unless you store it in a welded 29 megaton container set into a reinforced concrete basemat, surrounded by 35 rows of razor wire fencing, landmines, rabid dogs and a sea of black mambas. Getting into your car when you needed it could in that case prove rather troublesome.

Viewed as a deterrent I quite like the idea of this cover plate, it is discreet and will make the thief stop and think. If he really wants the car then nothing will stop him. If it is a chancer, alerted by the BBC Watchdog programme on the ease of stealing BMWs, then it might work. At £60 it will provide some peace of mind and still allow access, when I need it, to the OBD port, without having to rummage around in the footwell.
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by NVM » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:40 pm

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NVM wrote:Most of the guys who have purchased the OBD stop own M3's and 335's. Which are the most targetted. So when you talk about price, if the product reduces or stops the chance of your pride and joy being taken in seconds then its a no brainer.

We sell this on behalf of the supplier because of the amount of BMW's we tune on a weekely basis. If all our customers cars got nicked we wouldnt have a customer to work with.

We have fitted this to our own E92 and 335i, and test fit is being done on our 135i which is running a few £££ mods. We dont fit things that dont work or cause issues.
I'm not, and I am sure others are not, disputing that it would cause any issue with a car once fitted.

My opinion is that it's a chunk of money for something that, although probably a fair price regarding quality of the item, is only as good as the surrounding plastic trim which it secures to.

You mentioned in an earlier post that "the plastic kick panel isn't as flimsy as you think". But it is as flimsy as I think! I think it's as flimsy as any other piece of car trim made of plastic, and I've yet to find a piece that can withstand a sharp metal object puncturing or smashing through it.

In your opening post you state that it has been tested on various cars; by this do you mean tested for fit? Or has someone actually tried attacking the surrounding trim with a screwdriver/chisel/claw hammer to see how easy or hard it is to remove?

I'm sorry if I'm being negative towards this product, but it's being marketed as an 'OBD STOP' with no evidence to back it up. IMO it's a flawed design because it relies on the insecure surrounding trim.

I am more than happy to be corrected.
So would your rather a plastic trim that clips in or a metal door that locks in? Agreed the plastic surrounding trim is still that, but unfortunately the 1series is weaker than the 3 series.

We have TESTED this, we've gone through various method. Videos will be on youtube soon.

Considering most attackers remove just a portion of the glass once shattered it is very unlikely this can be removed from that apeture.

With the complete window smashed or removed it is still very difficult to access this area without the alarm going off. Those with the said vehicles can test this themselves by winding down the window and setting the alarm then climbing in the door.

Many have been sold with great feedback, those that speculate will always speculate even when their pride and joy goes AWOL.

The AUDI models have now been targeted from 2008> a little more complicated but is still very nickable. OBD STOP have a more pronounced solution for those.
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Nick_in_Suffolk » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:22 am

I am not going to play around with moving the OBD, I am not going to remove pins and install a hidden switch and I am not going to trust the BMW software update (but will get it done).

I have ordered one of these.

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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Kuroblack350 » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:54 pm

Nick_in_Suffolk wrote:I am not going to play around with moving the OBD, I am not going to remove pins and install a hidden switch and I am not going to trust the BMW software update (but will get it done).

I have ordered one of these.

When the car is stolen you can all mock me.
You are not on your own, I've ordered one as well for my E92 - interested to see how good they are...

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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Dan116i » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:23 pm

This locks onto the plastic trim, so what's stopping them from just ripping the whole side footwell trim off :? It's only two clips and a screw
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by seamaster » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:00 pm

Well if it is sold at 59 I will probably buy one. I can see it has limitations but would deter some
attempts.

At 89 no. Just a bit too steep for the value it offers.
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by skuid87 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:59 pm

Dan116i wrote:This locks onto the plastic trim, so what's stopping them from just ripping the whole side footwell trim off :? It's only two clips and a screw
I don't think anyone is suggesting that this would make your car un-stealable. But the point is that it adds a deterrent to a car that is otherwise ridiculously easy to steal.

Not sure how the alarm works, but I take it take it anything more involved than simply slipping off the plastic cover to the OBD port might trigger the alarm?

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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Flat4Matt » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:53 am

A good idea but with a little more engineering, could be a winner IMO. If there was someway to reinforce the surrounding plastic then this should solve the problem.

Personally I think the best way would be to install a small discreet switch to turn it off when not doing diagnostics. (if anyone knows how to do this then please PM me!!)

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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Bux » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:49 am

I can see people's points with how the flexibility of the trim means it could be potentially useless. However, the issue is that when the scum puts their arm in and removes the normal cover (with ease) then the alarm will not go off. With this lock, they wouldn't be able to remove it very easily without actually being in the car or moving around a lot more and setting off the alarm.

I am considering buying one of the locks just to make me feel a bit better, even though i don't live in the major theft areas. I do agree that the cost does seem a bit high though for a plastic cover with a lock...
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by NVM » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:30 pm

Appreciate the feedback...

It is made out of steel not plastic just to confirm.

We have sold out of the E9X covers with great feedback. New stock coming and the 1 series to be released.

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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Dan116i » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:47 pm

Do you have a video of it being "attacked" yet? Also I know you've had grief with the price, but your RRP and even your discount is competing with Disklok which is thatcham approved and can be seen before they've smashed the window
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Ollie » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:29 pm

Just so you know there is a guy on PH who has an M3 - this was stolen with a Disclock on - apparently it was cut through like a baked bean can. So much for Thatcham approved. An OBD lock could well have caused the alarm to be sounded sooner. As they obviously disarmed the alarm via OBD, before cutting the lock off.

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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by NVM » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:30 pm

OBD STOP have now redesigned their locking system to incorporate a key with 10,000 combinations. It now has reniforced sleeving and still does the job but with better piece of mind. Photos and updates to come. Check out our http://www.nvmotorsport.co.uk/nvm-blog page for more updates and http://www.facebook.com/nvmotorsport
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