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Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by deanflyer » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:59 am

What are people recommending and where to purchase?

My wife crashed her M135i in the snow last week, its a total loss. It has shaken her confidence but she really likes the M lite. I have told her I will put winter tyres for next year which she seems okay with. As we will be ordering a new M140i it wont be arriving until March 18 so no rush to get something for this winter.

Any advice welcome.

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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by marco_polo » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:04 am

Ouch, hope she's ok.

Budget? £2,000 £400? Look? 17/18" Alloys? 17" Steelies?

I'd buy a 2nd hand set in the summer for best price, try to find something with the TPMS sensors already fitted if you can. Winter tyres go in the bin at 5mm, but they come with 9-10mm of tread when new. Something to bear in mind if you do go down the used route.
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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by deanflyer » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:20 am

She rolled it twice, not a scratch on her thank goodness.

Not bothered about the wheels orthe look. What are people fitting? Dont mind spending extra on the rubber and buying new.

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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by Blind Pugh » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:41 am

Oem solutions-

- 17” x 7.5” x1 steel wheels cw 225/45/17 all round.

- Some 17” F2x alloys will fit over m140i front brakes.

18” F2x all fit over mlite brakes. I have a set of 461m alloys available ex of m135i pm if interested.

Non OEM - 17 or 18” - need to ensure adequate clearance front calipers.

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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by ScoobyChris » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:38 am

I went down the 17" X1 steelies route after looking on ebay an not managing to find any alloys that were cheaper (especially when delivery was factored in) and lots of the wheel and tyre packages were eye-watering. Went for new tyres as I figured I'd be keeping the car for a while. My costs were:

- 4 X1 steelies (Cotswolds BMW) - £350.11
- 4 Conti WinterContact TS860 (225/45/17 94 V-rated) - £471.16
- 4 TPMS sensors (ebay) - £89.30
- Fitted (Event-tyres on the drive) - £80.00

Probably could have saved a few quid here and there (I went for the V-rated tyres which some people might think is overkill ;-)) but it was convenient not having to drive to garages with a car full of wheels :D

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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by Blind Pugh » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:47 am

ScoobyChris wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:38 am
I went down the 17" X1 steelies route after looking on ebay an not managing to find any alloys that were cheaper (especially when delivery was factored in) and lots of the wheel and tyre packages were eye-watering. Went for new tyres as I figured I'd be keeping the car for a while. My costs were:

- 4 X1 steelies (Cotswolds BMW) - £350.11
- 4 Conti WinterContact TS860 (225/45/17 94 V-rated) - £471.16
- 4 TPMS sensors (ebay) - £89.30
- Fitted (Event-tyres on the drive) - £80.00

Probably could have saved a few quid here and there (I went for the V-rated tyres which some people might think is overkill ;-)) but it was convenient not having to drive to garages with a car full of wheels :D

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Plenty of oem 17" X1 steel wheel sets on German ebay

https://www.ebay.de/itm/BMW-X1-E84-Komp ... 0005.m1851

or with faux wheel covers....

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-BMW-X1 ... Swyi9aL4UA

Tyres slightly taller [225/50 v 225/45] but will be fine for winter at <300 euro delivered incl TPMS....

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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by deanflyer » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:51 am

Great stuff. We have friends in Germany so might just have a peruse of ebay.de. As Ive said though new car wont be arriving until March so plenty of time to look for a bargain.

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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by ScoobyChris » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:02 pm

Blind Pugh wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:47 am
Plenty of oem 17" X1 steel wheel sets on German ebay

https://www.ebay.de/itm/BMW-X1-E84-Komp ... 0005.m1851

or with faux wheel covers....

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-BMW-X1 ... Swyi9aL4UA

Tyres slightly taller [225/50 v 225/45] but will be fine for winter at <300 euro delivered incl TPMS....
The last set of winters I bought (for my old E87) I got off German ebay - hopefully if you go down that route you have a better experience than I did :D

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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by msej449 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:23 pm

First, what I'd do is talk to your BMW dealer's Parts Mgr and see if they can do you anything special along with the new car order. Sometimes, BMW does have special deals available, especially when you're also buying a new car as well. My dealer also stores the unused set and switches them for £30.

If the Dealer option looks expensive (usually won't be much under £1K) then talk to a reliable local Independent. Previous car I got my winters from BMW but this time 'round (M235i) the Independent had a better choice and I went with them:

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The alloys are Wolfrace Drive 7.5Jx17 £95 each +VAT
The tyres are Pirelli Winter Sottozero S3: 225/45-17

I opted for the S3s as the car goes to the Alps in the winter and so I'm almost certain to hit snow/slush. The S3s are better in snow than the Pirelli Winter Sottozero Serie-II but the Serie-II is probably better in warmer, non-snow winter conditions, in terms of handling.

By all means look on eBay etc. but I'd recommend also asking BMW and a local Independent as well, then you've got the full range of choices.

Also, the recommendation from BMW is to go 'square' in the winter i.e. narrower rears. Although narrower tyres are better in snow, they are also more resistant to aquaplaning: which is important in your typical British winter. Going 'square', you lose a bit of warm-weather performance but I think you gain far more in wet handling.
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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by sgb27 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:43 pm

ScoobyChris wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:38 am
I went down the 17" X1 steelies route after looking on ebay an not managing to find any alloys that were cheaper (especially when delivery was factored in) and lots of the wheel and tyre packages were eye-watering. Went for new tyres as I figured I'd be keeping the car for a while. My costs were:

- 4 X1 steelies (Cotswolds BMW) - £350.11
- 4 Conti WinterContact TS860 (225/45/17 94 V-rated) - £471.16
- 4 TPMS sensors (ebay) - £89.30
- Fitted (Event-tyres on the drive) - £80.00

Probably could have saved a few quid here and there (I went for the V-rated tyres which some people might think is overkill ;-)) but it was convenient not having to drive to garages with a car full of wheels :D

Chris
Similar for me, but I got generic steelies for £186 delivered, and went with Dunlop Wintersport 5's, 225/45 R17 94 V XL £444 delivered. My local garage fitted it all for me for £40. And I found out you can fit the 4 wheels and 4 tyres in the gf's VW Up! no problem (no way I was getting the interior of the M140i dirty!).
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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by duckson » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:14 pm

Just ordered some Conti TS850P in 225/40/18 92V XL and 235/40/18 95V XL and they will be going on my stock alloys (already have aftermarket 18's with my original MPSS's on that I got in May so my stock are spare).
Cost:-
Tyres are ~£530 from Oponeo.
4 x TPMS from ebay ~£92 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x-NEU-Origi ... 2749.l2649
Fitting TBD, £60-80 i guess....I use a mobile tyre fitter i trust with my alloys! (Preston area).
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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by XWV » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:33 pm

Happy to hear your wife wasn't hurt!

One minor thing if going for steelies is that it's the 1st gen X1 wheels that fit on the F2x, not the current Mini-based one. It'd be obvious when you looked at the fitment but with Ebay adverts there's sometimes not enough detail.

As mine's a new car that I intend to keep long-term I spent a little more on a cheap set of aftermarket alloys in 18x7.5 with 225/40R18 Conti TS850s all round. Including Ebay TPMS and fitting it cost me around £1200 - a little more than steelies but a lot less than discounted BMW wheels (Cotswold offered sets at £1600 instead of £1912) for a style that I think looks really good on the car.
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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by sootyvrs » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:30 am

Have a look here -

You may need to get some TPMS sensors fitted which you can get on ebay for around £100

http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=103750
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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by CJ92 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:23 am

Certainly glad to hear your wife walked away unhurt and fair play to her for wanting to stick with the MLite.

She sounds one ballsy Lady.. :thumbs:
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Re: Winter Tyres/Wheels Recommendation

Post by Gimbal » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:48 am

Read some winter tyre tests and buy the best rubber you can. Do not buy some unknown cheap crap or old second hand set. I usually go for studded Nokian although the winter is probably tougher up here (Sweden). Also it’s not that expensive considering you will only use one set of wheels at the time anyway, so the cost is “only” a second set of rims.

Another thing to consider is that the conditions can change enormously, while the tyres might have great grip and plough through thick snow one day you might have trouble moving a couple of days later when the conditions have changed. It’s very hard to predict the amount of traction you will have during the winter just by looking at the snow and the temperature, especially around 0 degrees Celsius.

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