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Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by SilverSport » Tue May 15, 2018 9:03 pm

I’m planning to make the move from run flat and im in a dilemma as to whether I should go for Pilot Super Sport or Pilot Sport 4.

I’m sure coming from runflats so I’m sure either will feel amazing.

I ran PS4 on my last car (Megane RS275 Cup) and they were pretty good, but I’ve never ran with PSS and I know these come with with PSS as standard.

Interested to hear peoples real world use on both, and which way you’d go if you bought tyres.
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by marco_polo » Tue May 15, 2018 9:04 pm

Do you run Winters in winter?
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by NISFAN » Tue May 15, 2018 9:19 pm

Both good, but MPSS are just unbeatable.


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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by Menace » Tue May 15, 2018 9:25 pm

What MP said ^^^ if the answer is yes then personally I’d opt for the MPSS if no, then I’d opt for what I have now: the MPS4
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by Np01 » Tue May 15, 2018 10:09 pm

I’ve just swapped mine out for new boots all round, stuck with the MPSS, haven’t driven on the PS4 but MPSS are a brilliant tyre, car sticks to the road in the dry
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by SilverSport » Tue May 15, 2018 10:14 pm

marco_polo wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 9:04 pm
Do you run Winters in winter?
No, I don’t run winter tyres during winter.
Menace wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 9:25 pm
What MP said ^^^ if the answer is yes then personally I’d opt for the MPSS if no, then I’d opt for what I have now: the MPS4
How do you find the MPS4? Did you come from PSS and notice a difference?


Also, do people go for 88 or 92 rates tyres?
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by swanny71 » Tue May 15, 2018 10:29 pm

MPSS might be best if you intend to track it or drive like a loon on the road, otherwise the MPS4 is the better all round road tyre. I've used them both and will be fitting another pair of PS4 rears on Friday.

Obviously this is just my experience but have a read of the comments toward the bottom of this page, there's a tech boffin from Michelin explaining the differences between the tyres.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Mi ... -Drive.htm
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by marco_polo » Tue May 15, 2018 10:34 pm

I'd go PS4, they're more tolerant of deep standing water. MPSS threw THETYRANT (and Clarkson) off the track due to the limited drainage of the rears. (The fronts are fine).

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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by SilverSport » Tue May 15, 2018 10:43 pm

swanny71 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 10:29 pm
MPSS might be best if you intend to track it or drive like a loon on the road, otherwise the MPS4 is the better all round road tyre. I've used them both and will be fitting another pair of PS4 rears on Friday.

Obviously this is just my experience but have a read of the comments toward the bottom of this page, there's a tech boffin from Michelin explaining the differences between the tyres.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Mi ... -Drive.htm
Thanks for the feedback and link too, I’ll go have a read now.

I don’t plan on tracking the car. It’s just used enthusiastically at times 😂
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I'd go PS4, they're more tolerant of deep standing water. MPSS threw THETYRANT (and Clarkson) off the track due to the limited drainage of the rears. (The fronts are fine).

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Yeah that’s a good point, and we do get our fair share of rain the UK.

Is that 92Y front and rear?

Does it affect the handling having 92 instead of 88 on the front?
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by marco_polo » Tue May 15, 2018 10:57 pm

You just get a little less annoying outer-edge tyre wear.
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by SilverSport » Tue May 15, 2018 11:02 pm

marco_polo wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 10:57 pm
You just get a little less annoying outer-edge tyre wear.
Ah that’s good then - I get that on my run flats too!
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by Spoof » Wed May 16, 2018 8:54 am

I've switched to the PS4 now too. I'm a huge fan of the MPSS and will probably switch to the PS4S on my other cars when the time comes, but the 140 is my daily commuter and the PS4 is more of an all round tyre imo.

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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by OneTwenty » Wed May 16, 2018 9:03 am

PS4 is a good choice, I will be moving to these when mine need changing - have them on our E91 and they are really good in all conditions.
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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by shifty_dave » Wed May 16, 2018 10:27 am

I've just put PS4 on the rear and they've been great so far, though I switched to them straight from winters so it's a bit more tricky to do a direct comparison with PSS. In my opinion though there's been a negligible difference in dry weather grip on the road (on track I imagine PSS would be better as it has a greater contact patch), but the channels are much wider so in the wet they're noticeably better. With PSS the traction control would often kick in when booting it out of roundabouts but there's barely anything with PS4. Pics below show the difference in tread patterns on the rear. PSS on the front have wider channels in the narrower tyre size so the difference between the two in wet weather might not be so large.

I still have PSS on the fronts but will replace with PS4 when they need doing, and I'll get 92Y.

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Re: Michelin PSS or PS4

Post by sir richard large » Wed May 16, 2018 11:47 am

I'm currently running PSS on the BMW, and have also fitted new PS4 on Megane3Cup.

Honestly, I dont push either of them hard enough, regularly enough, to tease out the nuances between them.

Moreover, because my BMW F20 is xDrive, i dont run into grip problems on acceleration phase, like many others claim to.

So my personal priorities is: (1) feel/progressiveness/response (2) comfort (3) grip (4) everything else

This is how Michelin ranks them on their internal scale

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They didnt discern wet handling, but from testimonial, and simply from seeing the grooves, I think theres no reason to pick PSS with PS4S on the market. Between the PS4S and PS4, I would lean towards PS4 for reasons aforementioned

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