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M135i Oil

Post by Snowyark » Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:43 am

Hi All

Just wanted to check that the below is the correct oil to use with the M135i;

Castrol EDGE FST 5W-30 Synthetic Engine Oil - 1L Bottle - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004 ... UTF8&psc=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is this what BMW actually put into the car from new - my car is yet to have an oil change ...

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Re: M135i Oil

Post by copperman05 » Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:49 am

BMW use the 0W30 version of the same oil as factory fill but the oil you show us still within the specs recommended for the M135i as retains the LL04 bmw approval. Being a 5W over 0W means it will be less optimal for winter use but should shear down less over the 0W oil.
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by Snowyark » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:00 pm

Thanks Copperman

Is it OK to mix these oils - if i was to buy oil from BMW i assume they would give me the 0W oil ...

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Re: M135i Oil

Post by marco_polo » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:08 pm

I bought FST 0W30 LL04 from Halfrauds, although I haven't had to use any yet.
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by copperman05 » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:40 pm

Snowyark wrote:Thanks Copperman

Is it OK to mix these oils - if i was to buy oil from BMW i assume they would give me the 0W oil ...
Perfectly fine to mix the two oils, I suspect BMW would, but I also suspect they would sell you a thicker grade should you request it, in other words both grades are correct for the M135i, only BMW decided to use the 0W30 at the factory, usually to meet emission regs than concerns over engine longevity.
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by bennyboysvuk » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:06 am

I was thinking of doing an oil change after run-in and was thinking about going with the same 0w30 Castrol Edge Professional stuff that I assume the car comes with.

Does anyone have any recommendations as to where to buy this oil? I'm a little wary of ebay or similar due to a chance of the oil being counterfeit.

I was thinking maybe of these guys:

http://moto-oil.co.uk/castrol-edge-prof ... ll04-0w-30" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by marco_polo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:03 am

Opie oils.
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by Chris6 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:34 am

I think you will find Opie don't sell professional castrol oil , mind you only difference is the colour due to the dye in it.

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Re: M135i Oil

Post by rusty13 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:14 am

I got mine from a BMW dealership trading on eBay. The oil was genuine.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130847902589? ... EBIDX%3AIT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by bennyboysvuk » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:11 pm

Cheers Rusty, that's a great suggestion.
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by weasley » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:47 pm

copperman05 wrote:BMW use the 0W30 version of the same oil as factory fill...
Really?
...but the oil you show us still within the specs recommended for the M135i as retains the LL04 bmw approval.
Agreed.
Being a 5W over 0W means it will be less optimal for winter use but should shear down less over the 0W oil.
Really? One way to achieve lower temperature flow is with better base oils, not just dosing in more VI improver. It's a bold assumption that a 5W-30 must be more shear stable than a 0W-30.
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by Fraggle » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:32 pm

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Re: M135i Oil

Post by copperman05 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:03 pm

weasley wrote:
copperman05 wrote:BMW use the 0W30 version of the same oil as factory fill...
Really?
...but the oil you show us still within the specs recommended for the M135i as retains the LL04 bmw approval.
Agreed.
Being a 5W over 0W means it will be less optimal for winter use but should shear down less over the 0W oil.
Really? One way to achieve lower temperature flow is with better base oils, not just dosing in more VI improver. It's a bold assumption that a 5W-30 must be more shear stable than a 0W-30.
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I wouldn't exactly call it a bold assumption, more a generalisation, I did say 'should' after all. If we were talking ester vs PAO then perhaps I would agree with you but its essentially the same oil (Castrol Edge *W30) so I suspect the base oil will be the same if not very similar. Generally speaking the 5W30 will be a marginally thicker oil over the 0W30 (despite any use of VI improvers) so I standby my assumption that the 5W30 oil will shear down less over the 0W30, although admittedly the differences will be marginal.
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by marco_polo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:06 pm

(Weasley works for Castrol....)
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Re: M135i Oil

Post by weasley » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:31 pm

And as such I can't say too much, but just in general terms, to get a 0W usually means more use of PAO, which is naturally higher VI than Group 3. Also, the assumption that a difference in viscosity for the same brand name means the same oil but with different VII/base oils is over-simplistic. It can be the case, but many times it isn't.

The trouble with assumptions is that they get repeated as facts. I'll do what I can to offer unbiased, objective information but as with many commercial enterprises, the technology behind the products is proprietary.
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