Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby binocular » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:50 pm

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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby Octavius » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:51 pm

With his attitude Craig I wouldn't offer to help him :lol:
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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby krisabf » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:58 pm

Octavius wrote:With his attitude Craig I wouldn't offer to help him :lol:


Neither would I :lol:
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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby matsmith749 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:17 pm

Come on guys get a grip.

I just don't like the business practice of jumping into a thread & saying you know how, but will only tell for a fee.

If you think that's cool on a public forum then good for you - personally I just find it wrong (pure & simple).

I don't want to pay someone to come to my house & code the car, or internet in & do it remotely. I'm happy to do it myself, just wanted a pointer from someone that had already done it. I was pretty clear in my original post if you want to read it.

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I share info freely & pass it on if it will help others (see my other detailed threads which do EXACTLY that).

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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby roundasapound » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:35 pm

I'll just interject here by saying whilst I understand where you're coming from, there are ways and means of communicating your message and you went about it in completely the wrong way (highlighted in bold for ease)

matsmith749 wrote:I prefer to use a public forum as a place to share information, rather than somewhere to get free advertising & tout your services online for a charge.

I hear good things about your service Wibbles, if you would care to post the info then I would really appreciate it (in the spirit of a public forum).

Thanks - Matt


A more amenable response would have been "Thanks for the offer, I'll bear this in mind but will attempt to code it myself. Are there any coding forums you can guide me to or any pointers?"

Just a simple adjustment makes a big difference. You came across unnecessarily rude for someone seeking help.
If Wibbles had said he would do it for free I'm guessing your response would have been a lot different? He was all but letting you know the service was there. The way in which you responded was completely unnecessary.

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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby matsmith749 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:54 pm

I give up - I can be a bit short tempered & I hold my hands up to that. But I have my opinion & I stand by it.

I did make it completely clear from the start that I was just looking for pointers to the right section / item to code, I wasn't looking for a business that could do it for me. Sheesh.

Where I come from internet forums are for people to share info & help each other. Simple as that.

I'm doing the coding this afternoon - for anyone interested, the code change is pretty simple.

AUDIO_SYSTEM needs the value changing from 01 Stereo to 02 Hifi (for just a speaker change adding tweeters).

The AUDO_SYSTEM_VAR deals with outputs to amps etc & is not altered by just a speaker change.

This will remove the treble / bass boost from the base system eq curve, which is modified due to the standard speakers being a bit low grade & having no tweeters / smaller underseat subs. Guides available (just search) for how to code with ESYS if you need them.

Peace / out.

Edited - I've coded the car & taken before / after audio spectrum sweeps to verify the change. If anyone is interested I'm happy to share the results which clearly demonstrate what to change & what happens when you do. Free of charge.
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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby Wibbles » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:37 pm

Glad you got it sorted.
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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby Chillnflow » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:17 pm

Hi Matt

Thanks for the info to date

Would be interested to hear what you thought of the difference now that you have the coding done too..you were clearly happy with the focals all round, would you say recoding is essential when upgrading speakers? And do you know what the different audio options all do?
Am thinking of the speaker upgrade myself but not decided on doing the coding myself if necessary and therefore may have to factor in that potential cost.
Ps do you know what psdz version I would need for a June build Lci..haven't been able to figure that out from my reading so far.

Thanks!

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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby matsmith749 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:40 pm

I was really happy with the difference from just the speaker swap (guess you have been reading the other thread regards that).

I would say that over a period of time I could tell that the EQ curve being applied by the stereo was overly boosting the treble & bass, which had the effect of reducing the midrange slightly. I could not fix it with the bass/treble controls, so needed to code it out.

I bought some audio spectrum analysis software & analysed the sound from the car, when you do that you can see exactly what happens with the sound processing & also what affect the bass and treble controls have on the sound output. I used pink noise for the testing.

When you code out the EQ curve you get rid of the extended bass & high frequency, which in effect boosts the midrange, leaving you with a more balanced EQ curve (dependent on what you have done with replacement speakers of course).

End result is a sound that can be tweaked with the bass & treble controls to give a more natural sound. Sometimes with the system before the coding it would sound great, but the odd tune would be cringingly bad. Now it sounds great on everything I have tried.

So yeh, pleased with the result of the coding.

There are businesss that can do the coding for you if you are not comfortable doing it yourself, so that should not be a worry.
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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby Chillnflow » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:19 pm

Yeah been following the other thread with interest, thanks for the sharing so far.
And you not messing about when it comes to testing the results...audio spectrum what! Will only be using my ears to test ha ha.
But good for other upgraders to know there is a definite change from this test.
Amazing what can be done with these cars with some knowledge.

The speaker change is getting mixed reviews now on the other thread i.e there's a couple of people that are not convinced by the change but this more scientific test on the recoding effect is encouraging.

Will keep reading up on the coding to see if in can get confident with that..
I like to know why and what I am doing rather than just following the instructions.. which is taking me a bit of time ...so many acronyms!

Just aiming to get some more feel and depth back into the music..

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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby Rustynut » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:31 pm

I don't seem to have to options in the coding in 3002 one :cry:

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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby HEAVYD » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:50 pm

What does it list?

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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby Rustynut » Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:57 pm

HEAVYD wrote:What does it list?

all i got was this
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Re: Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby HEAVYD » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:02 pm

You need to be in the head unit section, looks like that's for the sound composer.

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Coding from base stereo to HiFi (F22)

Postby HEAVYD » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:03 pm

I think mine was the HU_CHAMP. That section looks like it's for the sound composer. Someone with more knowledge will be along soon no doubt


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