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M2 Facelift

Post by Ursy » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:02 pm

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-ger ... ring/37085

Story from pistonheads suggests an M2 facelift - could this be driving the discounts?

Find it weird to be mentioning facelift as the car just had an LCI.

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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by Japper69 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:20 pm

Ursy wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:02 pm
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-ger ... ring/37085

Story from pistonheads suggests an M2 facelift - could this be driving the discounts?

Find it weird to be mentioning facelift as the car just had an LCI.
It’s just repeating what is already confirmed with the M2 Competition mid next year and the fact that the existing ‘base’ M2 will be discontinued.

Nothing new really!
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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by BishUK » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:49 pm

Facelift = Competition, S55, 2 new colours, new wheels, some new options (inc M seats) and a bit of new aero (likely front bumper only and re-worked rear diffusor to cover lower hanging S55 muffler).

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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by OrtonM135i » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:07 pm

I’ve had BMW Milton Keynes tell me today they’ve refunded 3 customer deposits on M2 CS and bmw have decided against building this! No competition pack or CSL planned for next year apparently, next M car out is the M3 CS... same story confirmed by Sytner BMW Romford as well


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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by Japper69 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:14 pm

OrtonM135i wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:07 pm
I’ve had BMW Milton Keynes tell me today they’ve refunded 3 customer deposits on M2 CS and bmw have decided against building this! No competition pack or CSL planned for next year apparently, next M car out is the M3 CS... same story confirmed by Sytner BMW Romford as well


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Since when did dealers know ‘jack’ ?. Maybe the refunds were to customers expecting a true CS model with potential to make quick profit.
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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by DaleB90 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:54 pm

I can't see bmw making all these changes for just a competition model, that's a serious amount of differences.
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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by as7920 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:11 pm

DaleB90 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:54 pm
I can't see bmw making all these changes for just a competition model, that's a serious amount of differences.
They already have. There are at least 20 of them built already.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/showth ... ?t=1425173

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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by OrtonM135i » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:44 pm

Japper69 wrote:
OrtonM135i wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:07 pm
I’ve had BMW Milton Keynes tell me today they’ve refunded 3 customer deposits on M2 CS and bmw have decided against building this! No competition pack or CSL planned for next year apparently, next M car out is the M3 CS... same story confirmed by Sytner BMW Romford as well


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Since when did dealers know ‘jack’ ?. Maybe the refunds were to customers expecting a true CS model with potential to make quick profit.
I agree dealers aren’t exactly known for being ahead of the game... but they’ve no reason in this case to lie and the 2 dealerships in question are not even part of the same group ie Sytner and Lancaster


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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by TM88 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:00 pm

So will the current M2 be unable to order after mid next year and the M2 competition will replace it?

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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by Japper69 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:35 pm

TM88 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:00 pm
So will the current M2 be unable to order after mid next year and the M2 competition will replace it?
Correct, it appears EOP is confirmed as June next year for the base M2.
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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by DaleB90 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:55 pm

as7920 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:11 pm
DaleB90 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:54 pm
I can't see bmw making all these changes for just a competition model, that's a serious amount of differences.
They already have. There are at least 20 of them built already.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/showth ... ?t=1425173
I'll rephrase, I can't see bmw making all these changes at a similar or a few K more rrp. I still suspect it will be a limited production run with a much higher mark up. It's going to be epic either way.
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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by TM88 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:06 pm

Thanks.

I'll pop into my dealer this week but if this is true it changes things for me and I won't be putting the factory order in as I was planning to next week. I was happy with the 9 month lead time on the order as it tied in nicely with my lease car return. From reading the bimmerpost thread however the M2 competition will be getting the S55 engine which could make this a totally different car. I just don't know how I'd feel taking delivery of a car so close to it's end of production and being an 'old' model straight away. Got a bit of thinking to do now :roll:

I am a bit baffled as to why BMW would replace the 'base' M2 so soon with the competition. With an expected price rise this is will put it even closer to the M4. :-?

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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by Japper69 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:40 am

DaleB90 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:55 pm
as7920 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:11 pm
DaleB90 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:54 pm
I can't see bmw making all these changes for just a competition model, that's a serious amount of differences.
They already have. There are at least 20 of them built already.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/showth ... ?t=1425173
I'll rephrase, I can't see bmw making all these changes at a similar or a few K more rrp. I still suspect it will be a limited production run with a much higher mark up. It's going to be epic either way.
Again, pretty sure it’s been confirmed as not being limited at all. I think it will be priced between base M2 and base M4 but with a la Carter options bringing it nearer M4.
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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by Japper69 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:41 am

TM88 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:06 pm
Thanks.

I'll pop into my dealer this week but if this is true it changes things for me and I won't be putting the factory order in as I was planning to next week. I was happy with the 9 month lead time on the order as it tied in nicely with my lease car return. From reading the bimmerpost thread however the M2 competition will be getting the S55 engine which could make this a totally different car. I just don't know how I'd feel taking delivery of a car so close to it's end of production and being an 'old' model straight away. Got a bit of thinking to do now :roll:

I am a bit baffled as to why BMW would replace the 'base' M2 so soon with the competition. With an expected price rise this is will put it even closer to the M4. :-?
Latest euro emission requirements is what is forcing death of N55 engine, hence base M2 EOP.
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Re: M2 Facelift

Post by Deadeye » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:31 am

There is a chance the M2cs will be a good thing for those of us who just bought LCIs.

Give it an S55 and a £5k=£10k price hike and you've got an M3. Same engine noise (I assume), same traction issues, damn near the same price without the ability to add toys liek HUD, Surround View and full leather.

None of the mules I've seen have a carbon roof yet either.

My name is down for the sake of getting on the list early but I think the M2cs is pointless apart from adressing the emissions issue. Why didn't they just use a tuned B58 with some up-rated internals?
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