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225xe

Post by jam80s » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:28 pm

Does anyone in the UK have a 225xe, looking to know what you think of it and does it perform as you expected?
Had it: 120d xdrive M sport,

Got, 225XE Luxury, Flamenco Red, Grey Leather, driver comfort pack, Technology Pack, Nav Plus, sun protection glass, ext folding mirrors, sports seats, heated seats, traffic jam assistant, active cruise.

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Re: 225xe

Post by Kiwi » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:41 am

I'm in New Zealand with my 225xe M Sport and is the same 225xe you would buy in England. The battery is 25% less distance than BMW says at least this is the only negative the rest of the car is great and have no complaints after 3 months of ownership. I'm finding half my driving is battery and petrol running at 3.8l per 100ks.
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Re: 225xe

Post by HookyMan » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:43 pm

The nice man at bmw let me loose in both a 330e and a 225xe for a couple of days each, prior to choosing a new company car.

The 225xe was a Luxury version, with comfort pack, 18inch run flats, and a pano roof.


I picked it up fully charged, and did 140 miles, A roads down from Oxfordshire to Chepstow, then back via the M48 /M5/ A40. Destinations and way points were in the sat nav, it was set to Auto Edrive / Eco pro. Driving reasonably hard both directions, total MPG for the trip was 44.7 mpg. On the motorways flowing with the traffic, the real time mpg was showing upper 30s for most of the way, so might be a problem if you do long motorway trips. For interest I did the same trip in the 330e and that returned 49mpg. Performance was noticeably less than the 330e, but fast enough for me, some reviews have criticised the acceleration tailing off at higher speeds, given the single speed electric, but I didn’t find it a problem, pulled very well right up to the legal limit.

Next day was my normal commute to work, 30 miles both ways into the centre of Oxford, mostly A and B roads. Was charged when I left home, and again at work, both trips were showing over 90mpg, very good given that I was playing with the modes, and giving it some welly on the way home.

Other things, the ride was just on the point of being too firm, and the seats were very hard, most unlike any BMW I've driven before. Loved the pano roof, but the blind is very thin and translucent. No problems with the steering, the gearbox, or the transition between petrol and electric, all of which has been criticised on various road tests. Visibility was bad to the side, with heavy door pillars, internal the ambient lighting was a little odd, with just two colours. (Three with off!) Space inside was fine, much better than the V60 twin engine, 330e, or A3 etron. Given that I’ve be driving diesels for many years, the refinement was amazing, with it making a wonderful howl towards the upper reaches of the rev range.

As it’s a company car, at the 7% bik tax makes a huge difference, the loss of mpg compared to my current Audi diesel will be offset against the tax savings. It’s the best compromise of the bunch I test drove, so one has been ordered, but I did go for the Sport version, rather than the Luxury, mainly due to the seats.

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Re: 225xe

Post by Kiwi » Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:32 am

Try a 225xe M Sport as I've found it so much fun when you out on the county roads in sports mod. I was surprised about hard seats as both my M sports seats in the 225xe and the 2 convertible are nice and comfy.

Enjoy your new ride and you'll find you'll play with all the different ways you can charge the battery and run on battery only.
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Re: 225xe

Post by Kiwi » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:03 am

Down under is starting to warm up after winter. I've found the battery distance was down to as low as 28k and now it's climbing over the last week and today it's 35k thats a 25% increase. New Zealand has a very mild winter compared with northern countries.

I read some northern American states saying don't bother buying battery cars due to the very low battery mileage due to the cold.
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Re: 225xe

Post by HookyMan » Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:46 am

Good morning from a sunny UK. Trees are just beginning to change here as we slide into Autumn.

Unfortunately MSport models has not arrived on our company car list yet, so its just a choice of Luxury or Sport for me. I did sit in a MSport AT, and for me the seats were much better, the difference between the standard seats (for the UK in SE and Luxury versions), and the Sports seats (Sport and Msport version) is huge. The standard seats are short and very hard, the sport seats are much bigger, much better padded, and have more adjustments.

My order is in, but I have a couple of weeks to finalise options, any views on the LED light upgrade? The 225xe demo didn't have them, but the 330e did and they were fantastic!

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Re: 225xe

Post by Kiwi » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:36 am

LED lights comes standard with M Sports and I like them. The car did come with comfort access and something I wouldn't order but I will from now on as it is so useful. My car was the first 225xe on the ride down under. It was already on the boat when I confirmed the order and didn't want to wait 3 more months.
The X drive works great as I was on a very muddy rutty steep farm track last weekend. The farmer said I will have fun getting out but not a problem even with 18" wheels.

After 4500ks, 2416ks was battery with a saving of 148L of petrol as a lot of my driving is on motorways.

I do like the location of battery charging stations at shopping malls as they are almost by the mall entry doors and it's free charging. There are only 1700 battery cars in New Zealand as their's no government subsides so I don't get to see them very often.
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Re: 225xe

Post by HookyMan » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:43 pm

I was wondering how it coped is slippery conditions, in my case 5 miles of minor roads and hills to the nearest B road, which means I'm snowed in once or twice each winter. Now I also have a '58 SII Land Rover, but lack of heater and any sort of reliably means its a bit of a lottery to get anywhere!

So how do you get the 4x4 operating? In the Volvo V60 twin engine you have a handy 4x4 button. I assumed before I drove the 225xe that if it was in sport mode the petrol was running at all times, but on my test I found that wasn't the case. Is it just cleaver enough to detect wheel slip and bring in both engines as required?

The electric charging situation in the UK is a bit shambolic. At the moment you get big tax breaks on company cars, but that is being whittled down year on year. Until recently you got free charging at most motorway stations, but now you have to pay for it, at an hourly rate which makes charging uneconomic for the 225. None of my local shopping areas have free (or indeed any sort of) charging. My work currently has free charging, but that is unusual, and I'm sure the government will soon look at it and consider it a benefit that should be taxed.

An the UK electric car forums there seems a lot of negativity towards PHEV's clogging up charging slots, again they point out that in the same time as you get 20 miles of charge in a 225xe, you could charge up an I3 or similar for over 100miles, and you get the feeling that somehow PHEV's are not real electric cars. From my point of view there is nothing that meets my need for 300 mile range this side of a Tesla, and until the pure electrics manage 300 miles they are no good for me. Currently PHEV seems a good compromise. I'm guessing that when I come to replace the 225 in 3 years time then Telsa 3's or the new VW electrics will manage that, and also the charging network will be in place.

If you visit Sweden and see the fantastic way they encourage the use of electric cars, its like a different world! Free parking and charging, use of bus lanes, massive tax breaks!

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Re: 225xe

Post by Kiwi » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:07 pm

The car works out for itself when it needs 4x4 and which wheel or wheels has traction you just drive.

I don't sit around charging the car it's a waste of my time and I don't want a fully electric battery car as once the power goes out or you are somewhere you cannot charge then you're going know where. I like the option of both petrol engine and battery.

Their will never be enough charging stations if the uptake of battery cars takes off. Battery cars may become cheaper to buy than petrol/diesel in a few years.
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Re: 225xe

Post by dorsetred » Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:39 am

Very interesting thread and I completely agree with the comments regarding the M Sport seats which we've got in our 218d Active Tourer, have to admit on the odd occasion the A post / window is a total pain but as with anything you do get used to it.

As advised in another thread during the period from when we collected the car 30th November 2014 up to June this year my better half using it on a daily basis appears to be averaging between 39 - 41mpg whereas in June when we travelled from Dorset up to Cheshire (about 450 miles round trip ) and averaged 53.4 we were well pleased with that fuel consumption.

I see no purpose in considering the mpg figures published by manufacturers simply because each person drives in a totally different manner and as is obvious from our previous cars I definitely don't hang around and as yet still haven't used "snail" as it would drive me crazy not having the acceleration when I decide I want it and not the car making the decision for me.

Should we ever decide to change the car I'd definitely go for the Active Tourer 225xe version simply because everything about the vehicle suits our requirement.

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Re: 225xe

Post by Kiwi » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:29 am

My 225xe does get confused sometimes and will not drive. When this happens I have to shut the car down and restart after a couple of seconds rest.
It is the most used car we have owned and covered the most miles per month for many years.
It will be interesting the battery mileage over this winter in England mine got down to 27ks
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Re: 225xe

Post by Kiwi » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:32 am

Dorsetred Check pricing to change your 2014 AT to a 2016/17 225xe. I understand you can receive subsidies and what I've been reading some of these subsidies are being remove around the world and may be cheaper than you think it is to change. Watch diesel resale as the word is diesels are becoming harder to sell due to VW cheating as well countries trying to ban diesels and cars like the 225xe, X5e will replace diesels. The only diesel BMWs are selling here now is 5, 7, AT & X models.
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Re: 225xe

Post by dorsetred » Sun Oct 02, 2016 3:21 pm

Kiwi wrote:Dorsetred Check pricing to change your 2014 AT to a 2016/17 225xe. I understand you can receive subsidies and what I've been reading some of these subsidies are being remove around the world and may be cheaper than you think it is to change. Watch diesel resale as the word is diesels are becoming harder to sell due to VW cheating as well countries trying to ban diesels and cars like the 225xe, X5e will replace diesels. The only diesel BMWs are selling here now is 5, 7, AT & X models.
Hi Kiwi

To be honest I've thought about it although close to two years now and less than 7,000 miles to date which is nothing, car is running as sweet as you could wish for and 1st service due on 30th November. I've no doubt when back to UK on 16th December I've got time to spare with SWMBO working just before Christmas I'll be down to the dealer and see what they are prepared to offer especially if they have an M Sport version available with the fully loaded spec I'd be after,

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Re: 225xe

Post by Kiwi » Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:29 am

Miles doesn't matter much it's the fun in driving what you enjoy now.
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Re: 225xe

Post by Kiwi » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:10 am

Battery charged and @ 38ks it's the most I've seen. I never thought colder weather effects batteries so much.

Thats a 45% difference.
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