So today we had an update for July..... For both the M140 and M240....
All changes take effect from week 27, July 2018.
- Option 2TB Sport Automatic transmission now standard on 120i and M140i models. Manual transmission is no longer available.
Dont know about UK numbers, but regionally here the GTI DSG outsells Manual about 10:1.
135/140i are way less numerous to build stats but its probably 15:1 or 20:1.
It doesnt hurt that the BMW manual is just not that good (sorry guys), and the ZF is so darn good.
Autobox is also great to use in conjunction with adaptive cruise, and helps usher a step closer to more autonomous driving (sorry, theres that evil concept...)
Paul I think everyone is entitled to their opinions but not to their facts and I can only disagree with your opinion.
A manual is the most up to date technology bar none for me. Because I prefer them so it has no competition whatsoever and can't therefore be outdated by definition. This is not out of nostalgia btw, just personal preference.
Paul I think everyone is entitled to their opinions but not to their facts and I can only disagree with your opinion.
A manual is the most up to date technology bar none for me. Because I prefer them so it has no competition whatsoever and can't therefore be outdated by definition. This is not out of nostalgia btw, just personal preference.
Well noted but the thing with manual transmissions is they can't be integrated with the ECU which means emissions control, traction, stability control, any level of autonomous driving (car can't come to an automatic stop) etc is compromised or not even possible. That's what I mean by out dated.
Am I wrong? Are they not facts? I fully understand you may not care about those things but me, you and everyone have no choice if we want to buy a new mass produced car that meets all legislation worldwide.
Yes i'm sure the auto is very good as an auto, but it is still a slush box.
I'm fortunate that I also have a Maserati 4200 with F1 cambiocorsa gearbox.
That is still a true manual gearbox, with a clutch, and paddles.
So the computer opens and closes the clutch, and you change gear using the paddles.
What this means is that you still have complete control.
If you are in 6th top gear, two pulls of the left paddle and she drops straight into 4th, even 3 quick pulls and straight into 3rd direct from 6th etc. Same going up the box.
I was speaking to an auto M135i owner and he said when in manual mode, you can't skip gears?
Yes i'm sure the auto is very good as an auto, but it is still a slush box.
I'm fortunate that I also have a Maserati 4200 with F1 cambiocorsa gearbox.
That is still a true manual gearbox, with a clutch, and paddles.
So the computer opens and closes the clutch, and you change gear using the paddles.
What this means is that you still have complete control.
If you are in 6th top gear, two pulls of the left paddle and she drops straight into 4th, even 3 quick pulls and straight into 3rd direct from 6th etc. Same going up the box.
I was speaking to an auto M135i owner and he said when in manual mode, you can't skip gears?
If it has a torque converter, it is a slush box, and it has a torque converter :makefun:
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