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Broken bleed nipple

Post by ttassie15 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:18 pm

Hi all,
As title says, the bleed nipple has sheared off whilst trying to loosen it.
I saw a cheap set of 135i rear calipers on eBay and took a punt on them. They weren’t too bad condition, but I plan on getting them refurbed anyway to match the m135i fronts so wasn’t too bothered.
Both of the bleed nipples were really tight, but with a bit of plusgas I got one of them off, and unfortunately the other one just gave way and snapped off! I’ve read that if the nipple snaps off whilst you’re trying to undo it, as opposed to tightening it, you might as well write the caliper off. Is this the case?
What’re my chances of getting the snapped bit of screw out with a bit of heat and a screw extractor?
Or does anyone know of a company that can sort this and maybe paint/refurb the calipers at the same time??

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Post by marco_polo » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:34 pm

I'd pop it in the oven (as hot as you dare - 150C?) for a while so it's heated through and through, then attack it with your extractor and a pipe freezing kit - see if you can shrink it free basically.
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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by ttassie15 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:09 pm

I imagine it doesn’t need too long in the oven, few mins at 100°c or something? I don’t want to bake the thing will this affect seals, can I use a blow torch to heat just the snapped screw area?
Doing a couple of hot/cold cycles and then using the screw extractor? Or using the extractor first and then try shrinking it etc?



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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by Autosri » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:16 pm

Blow lamp will be better as it will heat the aluminium up faster than the steel bleed nipple and get a screw extractor on a small impact gun and try to gently rattle it out with the gun

You will trash the paint though so maybe try the oven first

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Post by marco_polo » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:27 pm

Brakes get fairly hot during track use, so getting them warm shouldn't hurt. Brake fluid needs to work at 200C.
Blow torches tend to just locally heat the surface and ruin the paint, so not ideal imo.
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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by Twenny » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:46 pm

https://pro-calipers.co.uk/

I used this guy a few months ago and he was brilliant and very reasonable prices.
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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by ttassie15 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:17 pm

Think I’ll try the oven first.
So I wanna be heating them up first, then freezing the screw then trying the extractor?


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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by ttassie15 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:32 pm

Twenny wrote:https://pro-calipers.co.uk/

I used this guy a few months ago and he was brilliant and very reasonable prices.
I’ve sent him an email, £20 to fix the bleed screw, and he might as well paint them whilst he’s got them!


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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by Twenny » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:53 pm

ttassie15 wrote:Think I’ll try the oven first.
So I wanna be heating them up first, then freezing the screw then trying the extractor?


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Yeah unless you know what you’re doing I’d get them done by Pro Calipers. Probably cheaper in the long run lol
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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by Erwinko » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:57 pm

Twenny wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:53 pm
ttassie15 wrote:Think I’ll try the oven first.
So I wanna be heating them up first, then freezing the screw then trying the extractor?


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Yeah unless you know what you’re doing I’d get them done by Pro Calipers. Probably cheaper in the long run lol
Indeed, they can be a real pain in the ass!
They broke for a reason, not because they were easy losing.
100degr heat won't do anything. In most cases you have to drill the bleed nipple out. Very secure job.

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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by Autosri » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:09 pm

Heating them up locally around the bleed nipple is exactly what you want to happen but will kill the paint as the aluminium expands more quickly than the steel bleed nipple
They snap because the metal is so thin under the head not because they are particularly tight in there

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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by ttassie15 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:04 am

Sent these away to be refurbed at the weekend. Unfortunately pro calipers can only use powdercoating. Will update the thread when I get them back!


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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by Barney McGrew » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:59 am

In the situation you're in I'd drill a small recess out and weld on a steel rod onto the nipple base - the welding will also get a ton of heat into that local area and break away any seizing. Then you have more purchase to try to twist it out and the weld should be stronger than the thin neck of the original nipple so would hopefully have enough strength to twist the rest out.
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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by ttassie15 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:08 am

I wanted them painted in the Monte Carlo blue anyway and the company will renew seals and repair the bleed screw! Saves me c*cking it up any further!


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Re: Broken bleed nipple

Post by Octavius » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:52 am

You’ve done the right thing as they will look as good as new when you get them back.
I’ve seen members on hear TRY and paint callipers themselves and they looked shocking.
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