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123d remap cheap or reputable.

Post by Rake32 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:44 pm

There's a company near me offering a carbon clean and a OBD remap for £100 all in! Or £150 if the ecu has to come out.

I was waiting until I had enough money and going down to bwchiptune, as everyone recommends. It is a fair drive though from Yorkshire and it would be four times the price for the map alone.

Will a bw tune really be worth 4 times this cheap one, and worth the drive? The company is XR tuning in Barnsley, they've got 5/5 on Facebook reviews.

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Post by marco_polo » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:45 pm

I'd go option C) , ask BW Chiptune who their local agent is.

123d's are notoriously hard to get right, generic maps always give serious problems.
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Post by Rake32 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:47 pm

I'll drop Jason a message.

They are saying it's a custom map.

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Post by marco_polo » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:48 pm

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Re: 123d remap cheap or reputable.

Post by Rake32 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:51 pm

Something tells me you don't believe them... 😂

I'm pretty new to tuning, dabbled before but nothing major.

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Post by Nottsknots » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:57 pm

If its that cheap, it ‘aint going to be specific to your vehicle - they’ll be running at bu&&er all profit at those costs; it’ll be an off the shelf, generic, probably bought from one of the websites that sell the files - thats the only way to make money at that price.

Also, I see some disturbing words kn their website
“Mobile remapping and carbon cleaning”.

If the words remapping and mobile are in the same context, I strongly suspect they arent going to use a dyno. Hows it going to be custom if they dont measure the result and adjust? Its only a minor specific detail that makes me smell a rat, but chinks in the armor tend to open into gapping holes under pressure.

And fool can dump data bought from a website into a chip, dump more fuel or increase the boost, and the result will feel different/“better” - given the price, I suspect all those poor uninformed folks on the Facebook 5* review really think they got something worthwhile. What a good map will give you is power delivery without overstressing key components, a measured increase with diagnosis and rectification if your specific motor isnt giving the expected output, wont dent your fuel economy when your foot isnt planted in the Axminster (or wherever German carpets are made), and wont dump carbon all over the internals which you’ll only find out about when its all too late.

You’ve got Candice Swanepoel, dont stick ‘er in a shell suit (although I’m sure she’ll still be lovely).
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Post by Demelitia » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:31 pm

I think Bw chiptune have dyno tuning gear in Newcastle as well as daarn sarf.
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Post by Rake32 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:12 am

OK Nottsknots, you've convinced me. It did sound a bit too good to be true!

I've got in touch with bw, I think I'll be taking it down this weekend. I'm having the timing chain checked at BMW tomorrow, if it's all good I'll splash some money on it.

Bw don't have any agents near me unfortunately so it will be a long Saturday trip!

Once that's done I think I'll be cleaning the intake manifold and swapping the front shocks, maybe even the glow plugs if I dare. It should be like new!

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Post by marco_polo » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:18 am

I'd do all the engine work before the remap, no point in having a custom set-up carried out with a clogged inlet, etc?

I'd go for fresh oil (pre dyno) & new air filter too.
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Re: 123d remap cheap or reputable.

Post by Rake32 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:32 am

Fair point Marco that slipped my mind, I'll get the manifold off this weekend with the well needed long weekend on the way.

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Post by Rake32 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:27 am

Final one, is it worth doing the intake manually or taking it to one of these carbon cleaners? Someone near me do it for £50, which I'd happily pay if it actually does the job.

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Post by marco_polo » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:30 am

Most of these Carbon Cleaners are selling snake oil, imo. But let's say for arguments sake it does work, If a big chunk of carbon falls off, where does it go? Stuck in the valves? Turbo?

I'd do it manually.
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Post by Toed64 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:35 pm

Rake32, do you propose to remove the swirl flaps too?

You could also have the EGR mapped shut so that it doesn't accumulate masses of carbon again: it's worked nicely on my friend's 530d...and my Shogun that I blanked with a steel plate.

Marco - you have also recommended P-Torque in other posts...thoughts?
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Post by marco_polo » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:43 pm

BW Chiptune are the only place I'd go with a 123d/125d. Seriously fussy cars.
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Re: 123d remap cheap or reputable.

Post by Mr Whippy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:44 pm

Won’t James/Jammapic at Derv Tech be closer and good enough to trust?!
He’s Manchester so a lot closer.

Just ask him straight up if he’ll do a good one.

He’s closer and arguably has some good diesel experience which is what you need.

Not to say don’t use BW Chiptune... just thinking about alternatives.



Nothing wrong with a generic map if it’s good. And your car is thoroughly checked before/after and made sure all is good.

I’m sure most diesel tuners doing a derv tune day to day don’t use the dyno for anything but making it look like they do and giving printouts.

All the limiters and values should be set already so a good car gives a bit more than a bad car... no need to custom tune unless you have mods really.
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