Thinking of buying 120D Coupe

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Re: Thinking of buying 120D Coupe

Post by marco_polo » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:25 pm

The 123d's power delivery (as standard) is quite linear and petrol like, where as a remapped 120d will feel far more turbo diesel, with a huge chunk of torque around 2,000 rev/min.

MedwayLuke (123d) drove my remapped 120d, and thought mine felt quicker. I'm not sure it was, but that's the impression a huge slug of low down torque gives.
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Re: Thinking of buying 120D Coupe

Post by TMInside » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:05 pm

marco_polo wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:25 pm
The 123d's power delivery (as standard) is quite linear and petrol like, where as a remapped 120d will feel far more turbo diesel, with a huge chunk of torque around 2,000 rev/min.

MedwayLuke (123d) drove my remapped 120d, and thought mine felt quicker. I'm not sure it was, but that's the impression a huge slug of low down torque gives.
Thanks for sharing that. That's interesting to know. It might be that I won't even want to remap it once I've test drove one. I was discussing with a member on here via PM how it would compare to the Fiesta ST (14 Plate) or a 125D (13 plate) as those are the cars I've drove. My instinct is telling me it would be similar to the ST just not as quick round the corners obviously.

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Re: Thinking of buying 120D Coupe

Post by Toed64 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:43 pm

It would take a fair bit of modding to get the rather heavy BMW to feel as nimble as the Fester, but with some shocks, bump stops, rear bush inserts and front suspension geometry changes, you could have a car that is both more comfortable and consistently faster on A roads.

The 123d felt under-geared to me and the 120d feels more relaxed as it does have taller gearing. Marco described the power and torque delivery differences between the two models, but it's also worthy of comment that I believe that Marco's 120d had the M47 motor, so with a decent remap, it would have produced about the same power output as a standard 123d, but probably a dollop more torque.

What's your budget? Are you still thinking that you need one of the older N47 equipped cars, or will you be lookng for the best/last of the M47 equipped cars?
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Re: Thinking of buying 120D Coupe

Post by TMInside » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:12 pm

Toed64 wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:43 pm
It would take a fair bit of modding to get the rather heavy BMW to feel as nimble as the Fester, but with some shocks, bump stops, rear bush inserts and front suspension geometry changes, you could have a car that is both more comfortable and consistently faster on A roads.

The 123d felt under-geared to me and the 120d feels more relaxed as it does have taller gearing. Marco described the power and torque delivery differences between the two models, but it's also worthy of comment that I believe that Marco's 120d had the M47 motor, so with a decent remap, it would have produced about the same power output as a standard 123d, but probably a dollop more torque.

What's your budget? Are you still thinking that you need one of the older N47 equipped cars, or will you be lookng for the best/last of the M47 equipped cars?
Yeah I've not fussed about going round corners. Straight lines however :twisted:.

I've got around £8k 'ish' to spend. Really like the 120 Coupe's, always wanted one and just don't have the cash available to get a 2 series although a friend of mine has just bought a 235I which is rapid.

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Re: Thinking of buying 120D Coupe

Post by TMInside » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:01 pm

So a quick update... I've decided to go with a 123D for the extra umppffff :D

I'm going to pop into a local garage near me that specialises in sourcing cars. I was going to go in with the following. He said should be around the £8K/£8.5K mark but may even be cheaper.

2010 (10 Plate) and above only!
FSH - A MUST!
M Sport - A must!
Automatic! - A Must!
Black interior - A must!
60-70k miles
Dual zone climate control is a must. Find the 'standard' one looks so ugly!
BMW Business CD - Sub-woofers under seat? Really Desirable.
Leather - Desirable but not essential
Heated seats - Desirable but not essential
iDrive System - Desirable but not essential
Black/Grey/White ?

I presume servicing would be the same cost as a 120D, but I'm aware from research that the breaks are bigger on the 123D so presume this will be a tad more pricey when they need replacing.

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Re: Thinking of buying 120D Coupe

Post by Toed64 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:36 pm

So long as you stay away from the main dealers, BMWs are not expensive to maintain...except that you are still opting to buy the engine that so many people have told you is the most likely to break!

You really would be so much better off with a 125i. It really is likely to cost you less overall and you'd be biuying one of the most reliable BMWs ever built.

Here's an automatic with low mileage:

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