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Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by Tedturbo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:16 pm

Hi All,

I'm looking into buying a 2009 Bmw 123D M sport

Sorry if these questions have been asked before, i'm looking for quick advice as i'm looking into buying the car within the next few days

The car in question has 78k on the clock with part BMW service history and part independent.

The dealer has confirmed the car has not had a new timing chain or any inspection done.

Should this car be avoided?

I have read all the horror stories on the N47 Engine and i'm seriously having second thoughts about buying the car

I'm currently driving a Honda civic Type -R FN2 and the Engine is Amazing

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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by Sam_M » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:07 pm

There is a potential recall on the timing chain, worth checking both with the government recall site (https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-recall) and BMW directly to see if the car was affected.

How will you cope with 4000 less RPM to play with?? :| :mrgreen:

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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by AP1 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:49 pm

There was never a timing chain recall. Only a quality enhancement which has ended.

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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by Sam_M » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:03 pm

Ah ok, thanks for confirming.

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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by Tedturbo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:22 pm

So should this car be avoided?

Love the look of the 1 series, but the online reviews are horrific.

What a massive let down, not to mention paranoia over load.

Will my timing chain snap or won’t it

What’s this Bmw Russian roulette:)

Not fun really is it

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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by 0l0dom0l0 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:51 pm

Tedturbo wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:22 pm
So should this car be avoided?

Love the look of the 1 series, but the online reviews are horrific.

What a massive let down, not to mention paranoia over load.

Will my timing chain snap or won’t it

What’s this Bmw Russian roulette:)

Not fun really is it
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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by Tedturbo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:08 pm

Doing more mileage, plus the civic doing 29mpg,
And I’m fed up of every boy racer under the wanting to race

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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by THETYRANT » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:15 pm

Avoid the Diesel buy a 130i or 125i coupe both with the 3litre 6pot petrol one of best engines ever :D
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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by Tedturbo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:17 pm

Need better mpg, so the petrol guzzlers are out

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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by marco_polo » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:22 pm

330d / 335d?
Silver F21 M135i - ManBox - HK - Adaptive + Eibach Pro's - BBS CH-R's - BMWP Drexler LSD - M4 LCA's

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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by 0l0dom0l0 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:51 pm

Or even 325d.
2007 130i LE - BMWP Exhaust, Strut Brace, Air Filter, Short Shift kit and Handbrake.
B12 KIT with M3 LCA and TS.
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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by robsta555 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:30 am

I'm not sure my previous 123d's did much more than mid 30's on mpg. But that may have been my heavy right foot!
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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by Toed64 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:48 am

Depending on what kind of driving you do, the 6 cylinder petrol cars are really quite good on fuel. My 135i regularly returned 35/36mpg on motorway runs.

If you are concerned about the chocolate timing chain when just considering the purchase, don't buy it...

If you must buy a diesel 1 series, buy the best 120d from before the N47 was introduced - tough and no DPF to block up either.
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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by Bullet » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:50 am

I love my 123d , though I do miss a petrol growl (actually planning to do the reverse of you and plump for an FK8 Type R in the next few years). I went for a 2010 model with 40,000 miles based on an understanding that the newer models were less likely to have a timing chain issue. I also change my oil every 4,000 miles. It's a cracking car and looks stellar as a coupé, with a stage 1 map I get about 43mpg. Perhaps focus on getting one with a decent service history and go as new as you can afford?

Ultimately yes, the timing chain issue is well known buy still only affects a minority of cars. For me, the pros outweighed the risks.
Now: custom mapped E82 123d running at 279bhp on 18s (pinched from a 135i), resprayed, depo v2s and carbon fibre wingmirrors.
Next job: super exciting, a new windscreen, and discs and pads all round .

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Re: Newbie BMW 123D M sport

Post by stuart_75 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:25 pm

I had a 123d for 5 years and got 50mpg all the time, did 150,000 miles in it too, no issues at all.

Now in a 135i coupe with 29mpg mwah!

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