About to retrofit Professional radio. Need some guidance.

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About to retrofit Professional radio. Need some guidance.

Post by bobbyggx » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:32 pm

Hi guys,

My 120D has the Business HU and I found for a reasonable prise the Professional HU (From E90, my research shows that they are the same, right?).

I saw the following video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAPupm5-0LM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .

I have a question regarding the USB. Does all Prof. HU has the USB connector and is it always WHITE, or it can be WHITE?

What is the exact coding which has to be done. Change the VO, removing the Business Radio and adding the Professional. Anything else?

P.S. The Prof. HU is from E90 LCI, but there are no detail pictures of the HU itself. I was wondering if I can get the information if it is USB and Bluetooth enabled. Probably if I ask for the vehicle VIN?

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Post by gigla » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:43 pm

Yes e90 headunits are exactly the same and useable..

Usb does not just require coding unless you have usb already in your car..
It is also not just a case of adding rad2 to your VO, unless the donor car has usb etc then it will need to be coded..
It all depends on the donor cars options and your options..
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Post by bobbyggx » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:48 pm

I don't have an USB outlet, only AUX. I'm not sure about the donor car, but I'll get its vin tomorrow and I'll read the options it has. Hopefully if the car has USB and BT build-in in the HU it will say so in the options list, not only BMW Professional CD.

It is a good upgrade from Business to Professional as the second one supports MP3 CDs, but it will be best if the HU also has the USB and BT build-in, this will be one bullet - two rabbits :mrgreen:

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Post by gigla » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:51 pm

Even with the usb built in it will require the retrofit as you dont have a usb socket..
And bt will require a mic..

What ever the donor car had will be the options coded so if it has bt and usb it will be enabled..
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Post by bobbyggx » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:27 pm

I know that I'll need USB Socket and a Mic. I'm hoping to get the USB and BT build-in in the HU.

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Post by ripper0306 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:36 pm

I'm actually retrofitting a Pro radio (with BT and USB built in)
Installation is really easy except removing the center console to route the USB wire under the armrest. (I'm even using a VW mic+wiring, cheaper and almost plug and play, just a pin to swap)

But coding for me is PITA... (I have cable and softwares), I did every DIY/Tutorial I found on the web.
I can't make it work..., it's really weird...
And I had to remove some gongs with coding (because when installing the Pro radio, they become very louder)

I had the Business HU too wit only the AUX source.
I'll be happy to follow your installation.

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Post by gigla » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:58 pm

ripper0306 wrote:I'm actually retrofitting a Pro radio (with BT and USB built in)
Installation is really easy except removing the center console to route the USB wire under the armrest. (I'm even using a VW mic+wiring, cheaper and almost plug and play, just a pin to swap)

But coding for me is PITA... (I have cable and softwares), I did every DIY/Tutorial I found on the web.
I can't make it work..., it's really weird...
And I had to remove some gongs with coding (because when installing the Pro radio, they become very louder)

I had the Business HU too wit only the AUX source.
I'll be happy to follow your installation.
Why are you having problems??

Remove old rad from vo then add $663, $6nn, $6fl and code whole car..
You will need to add these to the vo properly or it wont stay there and will be gone the nxt time you open ncs..
You may also have to trick the car into thinking your prod date is later than it is depending on the year of your car..
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Post by ripper0306 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:02 pm

I did it gigla... All the things you said :(
And still no BT, and no power/sound from USB (icon shown in audio sources)

I spent a week on the car, trying everything...

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Post by gigla » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:07 pm

ripper0306 wrote:I did it gigla... All the things you said :(
And still no BT, and no power/sound from USB (icon shown in audio sources)
There is no reason for it not to work if its wired up properly, did you code the whole car or just rad2??

What production date did you trick ncs into believing you had??

Are them options still showing in your vo??

I can show you how to enable it manualy by editing the trace file but using the retrofit codes is the proper way to work, but if that fails then add the options manualy..
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Post by ripper0306 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:16 pm

PM ;)

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Post by bobbyggx » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:30 pm

I'll know in few days when I recieve the HU, but I'm almost curtain that it won't have the USB and BT build-in.

You can try sending PM to the colleague in the E90 forum, he did the DYI video, I'm sure he will be more than happy to help.

Here is the link: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=687463" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

P.S. I've read in a different thread, here in BabyBMW, that E90 and E87 units have different hardware and sometimes this makes it very hard to get it up and working, but I'm not sure if this is the case here.

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Post by gigla » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:43 pm

My pm's are full and its a pita to keep deleting when they come thru so its easier for me to reply on here..

First the prod date you set the vo to, use 0910 to 1011..

What version daten do you have?

Also just coding rad2 isnt enough, once vo is changed you must code the whole car, if you have a error then your datens are out of date and this is prob causing all your problems..

If this fails after a daten update and full car code then remove 6nn from vo and see if bt shows..

Also please dont copy a blank file to a module, this is not the way to work, use expert profile to code to default.. :wink:
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Post by ripper0306 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:12 pm

I used 0311 and 0911, now I'm on 1114 for the date.
I assume I have v47 Daten, I'm not sure
But for errors while coding the whole car, I think it comes from the cable

I will use 0911 tomorrow and try to recode the whole car.
But I know it will fail automatically

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Post by bobbyggx » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:35 pm

So, gigla, If I'm getting you right I should follow the steps bellow:
1. Change VO by Adding the required options.
2. Write the VO
3. Just hit PROCESS car with JOB SG_CODIEREN, in order to reprogram all module to the new VO.

Did I got it right?

Thanks.

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Post by gigla » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:04 am

bobbyggx wrote:So, gigla, If I'm getting you right I should follow the steps bellow:
1. Change VO by Adding the required options.
2. Write the VO
3. Just hit PROCESS car with JOB SG_CODIEREN, in order to reprogram all module to the new VO.

Did I got it right?

Thanks.
Yes but vo must be changed on both cas and frm

So
1. Remove $662 and add $6fl $663 $6nn to the vo list of cas and frm and write
1 delete the cars date and put #0311 in the vo list do not write this
3.code the car with sg-codiern

All should be done in expert profile.. :D
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