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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by git-r2 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:27 pm

Lol!

Yes as Dave says the millway plates are about £300
'13 M135i standard.. and will remain so.. I promise... really.. will not modify... or abuse on track..
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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by docwra » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:28 am

git-r2 wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:37 pm
Will see if they get back to me, they have a lot of good reviews but anyone here have any experience to share?
I had my car walnut blasted by them as it happens :)

Good stuff - really nice guys, obviously know the cars better than most, from what I saw good workmanship and quality standards. Great setup and courtesy cars are always a bonus :)

Not so good - couple of technical things they didnt seem to know about (IIRC that an E9x M3 diff will fit straight on an E8x and maybe something coding related, cant remember what), missed that my DMF was VERY on the way out (they thought it was the clutch release bearing) and told me that a Fuel Pump Plausibility code they picked up meant I would need a new LPFP before too long, I seem to remember there may have been a suggestion of engine damage if it failed at high revs.

At the end of the day every business tries to upsell where they can but if I didnt know my onions I could have ended up spending money I didnt need to; that said in 20 years of modified cars I still havent found a garage that hasnt let me down at least once :(

Id go back for future work, Id just take their advice with a pinch of salt :)

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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by git-r2 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:36 am

docwra wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:28 am
git-r2 wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:37 pm
Will see if they get back to me, they have a lot of good reviews but anyone here have any experience to share?
I had my car walnut blasted by them as it happens :)

Good stuff - really nice guys, obviously know the cars better than most, from what I saw good workmanship and quality standards. Great setup and courtesy cars are always a bonus :)

Not so good - couple of technical things they didnt seem to know about (IIRC that an E9x M3 diff will fit straight on an E8x and maybe something coding related, cant remember what), missed that my DMF was VERY on the way out (they thought it was the clutch release bearing) and told me that a Fuel Pump Plausibility code they picked up meant I would need a new LPFP before too long, I seem to remember there may have been a suggestion of engine damage if it failed at high revs.

At the end of the day every business tries to upsell where they can but if I didnt know my onions I could have ended up spending money I didnt need to; that said in 20 years of modified cars I still havent found a garage that hasnt let me down at least once :(

Id go back for future work, Id just take their advice with a pinch of salt :)
Thanks mate for this and I’ve found exactly the same with being let down by garages, they all make mistakes but when the customer ends up paying for them is what gets me!

That’s why I sold the Skyline :(

Lol, BM specialists haven’t got back to me, same as litchfield.

I keep on looking at M4’s. I still prefer the 1 as it’s so much lighter but balancing what I’ll spend modifying it vs buying an M4 is difficult.
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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by docwra » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:32 pm

M4 is just a German Mustang at the end of the day IMO, youd need a lot of fettling to make it a rewarding track experience. Youd also have to mess up M Geometry which is never something to take lightly :shock:

A 1 series can handle better than a proper M car, it just takes a lot of work to get there :D

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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by git-r2 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:44 pm

docwra wrote:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:32 pm
M4 is just a German Mustang at the end of the day IMO, youd need a lot of fettling to make it a rewarding track experience. Youd also have to mess up M Geometry which is never something to take lightly :shock:

A 1 series can handle better than a proper M car, it just takes a lot of work to get there :D
Lol I like that - german mustang!

Agree that the 1 is better, just wish there were a few more professional tuners out there that would be able to do the work.

Thinking I’m going to put the 1 back to standard and get an M4. Not much over 35k would get a virtually brand new car, I could use the racechip I already have to get circa 500bhp and putnsome camber plates on the front. Job done. Or maybe not lol!
'13 M135i standard.. and will remain so.. I promise... really.. will not modify... or abuse on track..
'91 R32 GTR... basically standard and unmolested... 497 @ rear hubs... never raced nor rallied : https://youtu.be/jhsX0elVG2k
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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by marco_polo » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:59 am

I've was looking at M4's too until recently, stonking value for money. Definitely well worth a test drive.

They are a little heavier, but they don't really feel it being wider and having a lower Centre of Gravity.

After a light tune, it should be all the best bits of your R32 plus all the best bits of your M-Lite, all wrapped up in a nice luxurious package?
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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by Jamesno1 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:13 am

I drove an m2, m4 and m6 one after the other in that order on track at one of bmws experience day. The m4 was by far the best out of the three. M2 was nimble but didn't feel any faster than my m135, m6 was a brute with prodigious power but fell over itself in a corner and the m4 seemed to be the sweet spot.

Had a fair bit of track time in the m4 masters track car also and it was superb.

I'd say if you can afford it, have the m4
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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by git-r2 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:54 pm

Thanks for the comments chaps.

Marco, yes my thoughts exactly, would be as quick as the 32 with no money spent yet comfortable and soooo much cheaper to run.

Jamesno1 thanks for sharing that. Good to know.

Looks like I’ll have to get a test in one :)
'13 M135i standard.. and will remain so.. I promise... really.. will not modify... or abuse on track..
'91 R32 GTR... basically standard and unmolested... 497 @ rear hubs... never raced nor rallied : https://youtu.be/jhsX0elVG2k
+ some dullness

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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by Birdseye1 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:20 pm

Why not an M2 git-r? I drove an M4 over a weekend (new CP one) and while it was a good car, it felt big and refined. Not a chuckable as the 1er as you'd expect but an odd feeling for sure (more grown up than I'd expected). I'm picking up an M2 as these pre-reg deals were too hard to resist, I'm confident on track I'll need a touch more camber and improved brakes but otherwise good to go.

Either way, perhaps worth a look :mrgreen:
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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by AlexHall » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:14 pm

This is really interesting read!

I recently posted this http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=112532 and was pointed in your direction.

Noticed your running m4 pads on yours, my local track is Snetterton and recently did an evening there (first one with the m4 pads in) and got a bit of juddering under hard braking down the back straight for example. Wondered if you'd experienced any at all? I was running standard fluid bear in mind which I plan to change to RBF600 before my next outing next month.

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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by Blind Pugh » Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:39 pm

AlexHall wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:14 pm
Noticed your running m4 pads on yours, my local track is Snetterton and recently did an evening there (first one with the m4 pads in) and got a bit of juddering under hard braking down the back straight for example. Wondered if you'd experienced any at all?
did the juddering start straight away or towards the end of the track session ?

most probably pad deposits on the disc surface - repeat pad break-in usually sorts out judder.
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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by AlexHall » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:31 pm

Blind Pugh wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:39 pm
AlexHall wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:14 pm
did the juddering start straight away or towards the end of the track session ?

most probably pad deposits on the disc surface - repeat pad break-in usually sorts out judder.
Towards the end, I was going to attempt to re-bed them before my next trackday in the hope that helped.

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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by git-r2 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:32 pm

Birdseye1 wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:20 pm
Why not an M2 git-r? I drove an M4 over a weekend (new CP one) and while it was a good car, it felt big and refined. Not a chuckable as the 1er as you'd expect but an odd feeling for sure (more grown up than I'd expected). I'm picking up an M2 as these pre-reg deals were too hard to resist, I'm confident on track I'll need a touch more camber and improved brakes but otherwise good to go.

Either way, perhaps worth a look :mrgreen:
Thanks Birdseye, the m2 comp is what I’d like but way too expensive. I adore the M2 but it’s not different enough for me to the 1 series. And it’s heavier. The M4 isn’t much heavier than M2 but has twin turbo and capable of silly power without doing anything much, cheaper than m2 also when buying used.
'13 M135i standard.. and will remain so.. I promise... really.. will not modify... or abuse on track..
'91 R32 GTR... basically standard and unmolested... 497 @ rear hubs... never raced nor rallied : https://youtu.be/jhsX0elVG2k
+ some dullness

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Re: Git-r's road/track progress M135i

Post by git-r2 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:39 pm

AlexHall wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:14 pm
This is really interesting read!

I recently posted this http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=112532 and was pointed in your direction.

Noticed your running m4 pads on yours, my local track is Snetterton and recently did an evening there (first one with the m4 pads in) and got a bit of juddering under hard braking down the back straight for example. Wondered if you'd experienced any at all? I was running standard fluid bear in mind which I plan to change to RBF600 before my next outing next month.
I haven’t read your thread yet but the discs on my 1 series are 5 years old and have done probably 15 plus track days trying to get lap times and are still true. BMW discs are really good in my experience. In the wet when I was braking softly in traffic I did once notice some vibration but put it down to pad depositis as it soon disappeared. The last time I was out in mine it had fresh M4 pads but I wasn’t happy with braking at Bedford with the pedal going long and getting lots of the excessive brake pressure warnings coming up. I’m not sure what caused this it fingers crossed better fluid might cure it. I had a feeling at the time it may have been something to do with the emergency brake thing that bmw’s Have.
'13 M135i standard.. and will remain so.. I promise... really.. will not modify... or abuse on track..
'91 R32 GTR... basically standard and unmolested... 497 @ rear hubs... never raced nor rallied : https://youtu.be/jhsX0elVG2k
+ some dullness

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FINAL UPDATE

Post by git-r2 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:45 pm

The R32 is sold.

The M135 is back to standard.

BUT!!

A new (imho despite being 4 years old) M4 will be delivered on Thursday :spotman: :spotman: :spotman:

Anybody looking for parts I’m selling some very cheap!

I have the BMW LSD
Set of stock wheels with MPSS (from ‘16 Car)
M4 LCA’s
4 x used Michelin Cup 2 (225/40/18) they only did 1 dry track day but have some slight wear on the shoulders.

Thinking £1500 for the lot collected.
'13 M135i standard.. and will remain so.. I promise... really.. will not modify... or abuse on track..
'91 R32 GTR... basically standard and unmolested... 497 @ rear hubs... never raced nor rallied : https://youtu.be/jhsX0elVG2k
+ some dullness

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