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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by vhenax » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:26 am

Ye that s correct “inclinazione” is camber and “convergenza” is TOE

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by ZyBeR » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:41 pm

Will these fit an F20 M135i?

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by THETYRANT » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:04 pm

ZyBeR wrote:
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Will these fit an F20 M135i?
No sorry only e series cars as the f series uses different top mount setup which means simple plates like these won't fit :(
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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by Marbo » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:23 pm

just for interest, how many mm/inch I have to move the top mount of the shock, if I want to get extra 0,5 or 1degrees of negative camber?

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by THETYRANT » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:22 am

Marbo wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:23 pm
just for interest, how many mm/inch I have to move the top mount of the shock, if I want to get extra 0,5 or 1degrees of negative camber?
What are you thinking extending slots on strut towers ?
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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by Marbo » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:07 am

yes,extending the slots. I have M3LCA and Bilstein B12 (Eibach Pro kit spring), I will go to the wheel allingment, so we will see, but I have worries, it is needed a bit more camber yet.

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by THETYRANT » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:02 am

Are you planning a lot of track use ? too much negative camber can be an issue on road and a rule of thumb i say -1.5 to -2 for road use, track use is different of course.

If doing lots of track what you need is some stage2 camber plates :D these along with M3 LCA will give around -2.5 to -3deg of camber depending on ride height etc.

You can slot the towers to get a bit more without adding plates though, its roughly 5mm for every 0.5deg of camber but they are other variables so not an exact number but gives you an idea.
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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by Marbo » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:52 pm

Only fast road use. So 1,5-2degrees should be ok.We will do a allingment and will see, what I have know. My tips is around 1,3deg. Thx for your help.

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by V8MBO » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:55 pm

Not for a New M140i then? I like the idea of them for my car !!

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by THETYRANT » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:24 pm

V8MBO wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:55 pm
Not for a New M140i then? I like the idea of them for my car !!
No unfortunately due to different strut design on f series cars these won't work :( looks like thy will on e9x M3 models though and just waiting on some topmounts arriving do a trial fit and see what needs tweaking.

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by V8MBO » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:31 pm

Hi

Bummer they wont fit!! I will be needing some brake pads in a wee while though, do you hold some in stock for a new M140i? I was thinking Xp8?

Cheers Robin.

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by THETYRANT » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:41 pm

I generally build these pads to order as I'm so busy, drop me an email to sales@carbotech-europe.com we can discuss further.

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Suspension Quest thread - http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=80208

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by eyedoc » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:31 pm

THETYRANT wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:41 pm
I generally build these pads to order as I'm so busy, drop me an email to sales@carbotech-europe.com we can discuss further.

Ian
Hi Ian! PM’d you regarding camber plates :)

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by tree233 » Sun May 19, 2019 11:54 pm

Hi Ian, would you consider making a version of these that maximise caster?

I currently have the K-MAC Stage 2 camber plates, these are a floating design so I'm able to prioritise caster over camber and have been able to get 9.5* caster while still getting 2.3* static camber even on both sides, with M3 lca's & msport suspension.

They're so harsh tho on the Aussie roads that I'm worried about my towers mushrooming, therefore I'd much prefer plates like yours but don't want to lose caster!

I heart caster :mrgreen:

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by THETYRANT » Mon May 20, 2019 7:29 am

tree233 wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 11:54 pm
Hi Ian, would you consider making a version of these that maximise caster?

I currently have the K-MAC Stage 2 camber plates, these are a floating design so I'm able to prioritise caster over camber and have been able to get 9.5* caster while still getting 2.3* static camber even on both sides, with M3 lca's & msport suspension.

They're so harsh tho on the Aussie roads that I'm worried about my towers mushrooming, therefore I'd much prefer plates like yours but don't want to lose caster!

I heart caster :mrgreen:
I have thought about it and there is scope to do so but not done anything on it as yet, why do you want so much caster out of interest ?

Edit to add, looking back at what others have had measured on alignment rigs the Stage2 plates have increased caster to around 9deg on some setups, check out andrewuk1990 post on page 13 :)

I did expect some gain in caster with my design especially stage2 but it wasn't priority for designing these as I was focused on the camber mostly.

Ian
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Camber plate project - http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=96465

Suspension Quest thread - http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=80208

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