E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

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E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by Motley2012 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:36 am

I have just been quoted over £1500 from a main dealer to replace the rear drive shafts as they don't replace the worn ABS rings.

Does anyone have a good step by step for driveshaft removal, as a straw poll on a 60k car would you replace the ring or replace the shaft £20/65 since that latter would have all new rubbers etc (pattern part)
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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by rob180bhp » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:08 am

Omg what price?

Most motorfactors do recon shafts now

And at least try rings and sensors 1st again available from factors

You need to find a decent indi garage

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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by marco_polo » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:10 am

I think Motley is saying a new pattern shaft would be £65? Or is that dear? Sounds about right to me.

Yup, split the shaft (6 bolts - which often need replacing), one hub nut, and it's free. If you're doing both, you might need to move the exhaust out of the way.
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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by Nottsknots » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:11 am

To get the shafts out to replace the ring, there are quite a few large torx bolts; its recommended to get new bolts as they are fitted very tight (they have to never come undone whilst the drive train transmits all that power to the wheels), and the fiting and removal streches and weakens them. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who refit the old ones, but if the service guide says replace 'em, thats what I did.

I would DEFINATELY only go for the rings (if you're absolutely certain its rings and nothing else). Some useful additional info here:
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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by rob180bhp » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:19 am

No the £1500 quite was stupidly expensive
Shafts price sounds good

99% of the time new reluctor rings and new sensors fixes the problem / or 2 pattern shafts and 2 sensors and that's still a sensible price.


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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by Motley2012 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:19 am

Sorry, I wasn't clearer, the £65 is for recon Shafts with new boots etc, my thinking was is it really worth messing around doing the just the rings(with ABS sensors) for the cost difference £20-£65

Doesn't sound like that bigger job(famous last words), I just didn't want to start only to find out I then needed Press's/pullers etc to do the work.
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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by rob180bhp » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:28 am

Yes that is a good cheap option and maybe fit new rings on your old shafts and sell them on, or just sell them on anyway

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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by rob180bhp » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:35 am

I have fitted 100s of rings and shafts and the only issues I ever have is the drive shaft siezed in the wheel bearing, and only happened twice but each time I tried everything bit could not get them out without destroying everything

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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by Motley2012 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:55 am

Thanks for the swift reply, is there any mileage in cleaning up the rings and some have suggested online, placing a very thin washer under the sensor to compensate for the corrosion?
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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by rob180bhp » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:16 pm

The ring is basically damaged by corrosion build up undernesth it making it oval

A washer is a short term fix and can work but your increasing the air gap on the ring and that itself can cause issues

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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by Motley2012 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:44 pm

Rob, thanks I think changing the rings will be the first port of call.
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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by jimmy-120sport » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:54 pm

rob180bhp wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:28 am
Yes that is a good cheap option and maybe fit new rings on your old shafts and sell them on, or just sell them on anyway

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Are the £65 shafts ok Rob? I've heard a lot of people on mini torque say that cheaper drive shafts are generally sh*te and you get what you pay for :roll: but if you've fitted hundreds and have had no issues then that's good enough for me :wink:

Any one got any links as I'm pretty sure both my rings are fecked :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by DanT4 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:47 pm

I know this is a few months old but how did you get on? I've got the same job to do. The driveshaft nuts are both quite corroded and hopefully having them removed on Friday and I'll take over from there on my drive.

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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by Motley2012 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:43 pm

All worked out fine, time invested liberally soaking every nut with Plusgas the night before was time well spent,
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Re: E87 Rear Driveshaft Removal

Post by DanT4 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:58 pm

Thanks for the reply. I'm literally at it now. Hub nuts off and trying to work out size of female torx I need as I can't find one here that fits. Got to go shopping :)

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