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Post by mjr » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:49 pm

mjr wrote:Also, assume its a universal key for all of these locks?
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Post by Wibbles » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:52 pm

When is the E82 cover being released?
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Post by skuid87 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:02 pm

mjr wrote:Also, assume its a universal key for all of these locks?
This is the question that needs to be answered.

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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by SteveM » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:39 pm

Am I missing something here?

You remove the flimsy piece of plastic which covers the OBD port and replace it with a tough piece of plastic which encompasses a metal plate. The metal locks behind the surrounding flimsy plastic trim.

Surely all the toe-rag thief would need to do is ram a screwdriver into the surrounding trim and force the locking cover off. If the thief is tooled up to smash the window and make off with ones motor I'm sure they would be able to force this cover off too.

I'm not convinced.


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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Tux » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:49 pm

SteveM wrote:Am I missing something here?

You remove the flimsy piece of plastic which covers the OBD port and replace it with a tough piece of plastic which encompasses a metal plate. The metal locks behind the surrounding flimsy plastic trim.

Surely all the toe-rag thief would need to do is ram a screwdriver into the surrounding trim and force the locking cover off. If the thief is tooled up to smash the window and make off with ones motor I'm sure they would be able to force this cover off too.

I'm not convinced.


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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Nick_in_Suffolk » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:59 am

SteveM wrote:Am I missing something here?

You remove the flimsy piece of plastic which covers the OBD port and replace it with a tough piece of plastic which encompasses a metal plate. The metal locks behind the surrounding flimsy plastic trim.

Surely all the toe-rag thief would need to do is ram a screwdriver into the surrounding trim and force the locking cover off. If the thief is tooled up to smash the window and make off with ones motor I'm sure they would be able to force this cover off too.

I'm not convinced.


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After watching the video I have the same question, but the purpose of this OBD cover could be rationalised as follows. Like the proposals from other people to relocate the OBD port, this will provide an additional barrier, a level of deterrence for the intended thief. If, after gaining access to the inside he cannot simply remove the cover, he may stop. If he cannot immediately locate the OBD port, he may stop.

Provided the key to operate the OBD port is not a simple universal key (which is an unanswered question in an earlier thread), and a spare or two is provided, then this device may be a simpler solution for those who would prefer not to relocate the OBD.

I am not sure what level of trust we should put in the software update, promised but not yet available from BMW, when that software was so very vulnerable in the first place.
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by NVM » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:02 pm

We have been told by supplier there are a number of keys available. All Units sold with VEHICLE REG number so if a spare is needed it can only be sold to the V5 holder But regardsless of the key itself, when you see the engineering of this you will see how dificult it would be for the criminals even if they had your key!

Once you fit this and place a sticker on the window, its enough to deter them. Again without the door open it is impossible to attack. Try it yourself, open you drivers window and lock your doors and see if you can access the kick panel or break it. The plastic kick panel isnt as flimsy as you think.

Some of our customers are on this site and the M3 forum, so i'm sure they'll have reviews soon.

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As the days get shorter and nights get longer, these thefts will be on an increase again.

The software update BMW propose is nothing but software. It will soon be cracked by EDILOCK.
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Post by TheRuss » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:59 pm

I'm interested to know where you got your info about the BMW software updates. I'd like to remap my car in future, so wouldn't want to install an update that would prevent this.

However, £60 does seem rather pricey for such a small device. I've moved my OBD port, so the only way to get to it would be to remove the panel surrounding the OBD port. Removing this same panel would work just the same with your OBD port lock, except once the panel is removed in my car they'd still have to find the OBD port. In cars just equipped with the lock the OBD port would be right there for them once the panel is removed.

Also, I'm not convinced that moving the OBD port will invalidate my warranty unless I'd damaged the wiring in the process of moving it. Also I can't see that it'd affect the MOT either. I'll bet that most (if not all) MOT testers never even check the OBD port. (Why would they?) I've never noticed them check on previous cars, anyway. Even if they did, the port is still there and still works, it's just hidden.

I don't want to sound too negative though - I appreciate that time and effort has gone into this, and am glad that somebody is trying to find a solution. Hell, I'd probably even have one if it was £30, but £60 seems rather steep when I can move my OBD port for free.

Hmm, yeah... I still sound negative...
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Post by NVM » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:23 pm

The engineering in this is well worth the the RRP £89.99.. if it stops and deters the thief then it will be the best product you can buy for your £10K+ car

1. Steering locks are a pain to keep putting on/off.

2. OBD relocating is a good idea but can cause issues when at dealers or if you've gotta access it.

Dont forget these guys work quick and quietly. Just watch the watchdog video.

We had a customer with a BMW M5 that got attacked 3 times. The 2nd time we relocated his OBD but they found the original. The 3rd time they completely immobilised the car and needed a new CAS unit. So as long as the OBD is accessible it will be attacked.

This obd lock if used by the majority would possibly stop the gangs attacking these cars. More than likey if it was common knowledge that it was secure they'd stop nicking them.
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Wibbles » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:29 pm

£60 is steep but if it offers a deterrent then it's worth it. One thing I was thinking, if you have this item & you want to stop BMW from accessing your OBD come service time, this will be useful, especially of you want to retain your remap!
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Post by redwizard » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:41 pm

Hmmm ... the old chestnut of "we think think £60 is reasonable to charge to protect a £nnnnn car".

I still think that the best idea is to install a concealed isolating swtich (boot, glove-box, wherever) across pins 6 and 14 http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f= ... &start=270 of the OBD. Something that is not obvious and may buy enough time to prevent theft - there's no point in trying to prevent entry.
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by you loves it » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:49 pm

redwizard wrote:Hmmm ... the old chestnut of "we think think £60 is reasonable to charge to protect a £nnnnn car".

I still think that the best idea is to install a concealed isolating swtich (boot, glove-box, wherever) across pins 6 and 14 http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f= ... &start=270 of the OBD. Something that is not obvious and may buy enough time to prevent theft - there's no point in trying to prevent entry.
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by Octavius » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:13 pm

you loves it wrote:
redwizard wrote:Hmmm ... the old chestnut of "we think think £60 is reasonable to charge to protect a £nnnnn car".

I still think that the best idea is to install a concealed isolating swtich (boot, glove-box, wherever) across pins 6 and 14 http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f= ... &start=270 of the OBD. Something that is not obvious and may buy enough time to prevent theft - there's no point in trying to prevent entry.
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by NVM » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:47 am

Most of the guys who have purchased the OBD stop own M3's and 335's. Which are the most targetted. So when you talk about price, if the product reduces or stops the chance of your pride and joy being taken in seconds then its a no brainer.

We sell this on behalf of the supplier because of the amount of BMW's we tune on a weekely basis. If all our customers cars got nicked we wouldnt have a customer to work with.

We have fitted this to our own E92 and 335i, and test fit is being done on our 135i which is running a few £££ mods. We dont fit things that dont work or cause issues.
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Re: BMW OBD STOP LOCK

Post by SteveM » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:52 pm

NVM wrote:Most of the guys who have purchased the OBD stop own M3's and 335's. Which are the most targetted. So when you talk about price, if the product reduces or stops the chance of your pride and joy being taken in seconds then its a no brainer.

We sell this on behalf of the supplier because of the amount of BMW's we tune on a weekely basis. If all our customers cars got nicked we wouldnt have a customer to work with.

We have fitted this to our own E92 and 335i, and test fit is being done on our 135i which is running a few £££ mods. We dont fit things that dont work or cause issues.
I'm not, and I am sure others are not, disputing that it would cause any issue with a car once fitted.

My opinion is that it's a chunk of money for something that, although probably a fair price regarding quality of the item, is only as good as the surrounding plastic trim which it secures to.

You mentioned in an earlier post that "the plastic kick panel isn't as flimsy as you think". But it is as flimsy as I think! I think it's as flimsy as any other piece of car trim made of plastic, and I've yet to find a piece that can withstand a sharp metal object puncturing or smashing through it.

In your opening post you state that it has been tested on various cars; by this do you mean tested for fit? Or has someone actually tried attacking the surrounding trim with a screwdriver/chisel/claw hammer to see how easy or hard it is to remove?

I'm sorry if I'm being negative towards this product, but it's being marketed as an 'OBD STOP' with no evidence to back it up. IMO it's a flawed design because it relies on the insecure surrounding trim.

I am more than happy to be corrected.
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