JB+ v Bluespark

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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by Tooney » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:11 am

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Good work getting actual numbers mate.
What's the blip around 180kmh with the JB+?
Rough gear change?
Just a little bump in the road


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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by MrBink1990 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:23 am

MrArthur wrote:
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Sorry Arthur the 9.29 was a 100-200kmh pull not 60-130mph. We tried some pulls in D & E with out any noticeable change in times. Whilst it would seem it's not Jb4 quick it, it is nonetheless still impressive.


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Ok, its not JB4 quick, that I understand, but is it quicker than the JB+?
The JB+ is not slower than bluespark I have jb+ and get quicker quarter mile times with higher trap speeds and faster 100-200kph. People cant say 1 tuning box is faster than the other they all work differently with different cars etc. jb+ for me.

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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by MrBink1990 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:46 am

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Running BS on setting E now. Initially tested on C but after ten miles, cranked it straight up.

I ran the JB+ @ about 2 o'clock normally. I tried everything between that and max over the last 25k miles and 3 o'clock (standard) was the worst for gear change smoothness, max gave a lot of low down performance but felt like it was lacking at the top end.

The changes weren't bad, by any stretch and easy to live with. Its just that it feels stock with the BS fitted now.
Funny that because ive got jb+ and I do quarter mile in 12 seconds @ 117.6 - 119.8mph depending on conditions air temps etc and 100-200kph in 7.9 secs all done on vbox! My friend has the bluespark and decat on setting E, he couldn't get better than 12.4 @ 115.6mph quarter mile and 100-200kph in 8.6 secs on my vbox so id say from my experience jb+ has the edge. Im on max setting with jb+ and it pulls unbelievable. Bluespark seem to dyno slightly higher with decat but there deffo not as good on the road. Each to their own.

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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by Np01 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:46 am

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Funny that because ive got jb+ and I do quarter mile in 12 seconds @ 117.6 - 119.8mph depending on conditions air temps etc and 100-200kph in 7.9 secs all done on vbox! My friend has the bluespark and decat on setting E, he couldn't get better than 12.4 @ 115.6mph quarter mile and 100-200kph in 8.6 secs on my vbox so id say from my experience jb+ has the edge. Im on max setting with jb+ and it pulls unbelievable. Bluespark seem to dyno slightly higher with decat but there deffo not as good on the road. Each to their own.
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To many differing factors trying to compare two tuning boxes, on two different cars with two different drivers.
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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by Spoof » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:02 am

You're comparing two tuning boxes on two different cars?

My M140i ran 360hp standard on the Dyno, others 330/340.

It's also worth noting that from reading the DME of different cars, it has been noted the B58 standard software has some very different cam timing/ valve lift perameters from the factory that vary from factory software version to factory software version.

You're comparing Apples and Cheese I'm afraid, means absolutely nothing.

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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by Kyleralph078 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:20 pm

Ive had both and timed both with the same car same driver same fuel, different days so you could argue there may have been a temperature difference, same piece of road but the bluespark for me was faster, also went on a dyno saturday, same dyno as used for the jb+, had a number of issues trying to get a dyno run with the jb+ with regards to drivetrain error, since then fitted a bluespark and a decat and heres the numbers

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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by MrBink1990 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:37 am

MrArthur wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:27 pm
Tooney wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:18 pm
Sorry Arthur the 9.29 was a 100-200kmh pull not 60-130mph. We tried some pulls in D & E with out any noticeable change in times. Whilst it would seem it's not Jb4 quick it, it is nonetheless still impressive.


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Ol, its not JB4 quick, that I understand, but is it quicker than the JB+?
These are my jb+ times with full weight.
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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by Samp4856 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:28 pm

Kyleralph078 wrote:
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Ive had both and timed both with the same car same driver same fuel, different days so you could argue there may have been a temperature difference, same piece of road but the bluespark for me was faster, also went on a dyno saturday, same dyno as used for the jb+, had a number of issues trying to get a dyno run with the jb+ with regards to drivetrain error, since then fitted a bluespark and a decat and heres the numbers

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thats a really low figure for the jb+ considering on a lot of well proven dynos and tuners are seeing late 300/early 400 from the jb+, my jb+ on its max setting actually performed worse in data logs than turning it down a little, on its max setting the car's throttle would close a little at high rpm causing power to drop off, turned it down to 2:30/3pm and all is good holds the same throttle through out the range, looking at your dyno you dont seem to be getting throttle closure though...
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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by MrBink1990 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:35 pm

Kyleralph078 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:20 pm
Ive had both and timed both with the same car same driver same fuel, different days so you could argue there may have been a temperature difference, same piece of road but the bluespark for me was faster, also went on a dyno saturday, same dyno as used for the jb+, had a number of issues trying to get a dyno run with the jb+ with regards to drivetrain error, since then fitted a bluespark and a decat and heres the numbers
LMAO well your jb+ must be broke because I’ve got a dyno of bluespark and jb+ back to back and the jb+ did 410bhp and the bluespark did 402bhp.
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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by MrBink1990 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:59 pm

louisjack23 wrote:
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The JB+ Is a weaker more expensive option than the Bluespark. I've been running the bluespark on max setting for nearly a year now and it's faultless. Guy's have dyno'd them with a decat at just shy of 460bhp! JB+ Recently with a decat made 440ish bhp which is still very impressive but the Bluespark is the better choice. Also Ed and the guy's at Bluespark are top notch.
The m140 with the jb+ which made 441bhp had a sportscat not a decat, if it had a decat it would have been about the same power as bluespark as the sportscat are still restrictive, if you go on the draggy leaderboard there’s nothing in them in terms of performance.

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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by eddbluespark » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:37 pm

MrBink1990 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:35 pm
Kyleralph078 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:20 pm
Ive had both and timed both with the same car same driver same fuel, different days so you could argue there may have been a temperature difference, same piece of road but the bluespark for me was faster, also went on a dyno saturday, same dyno as used for the jb+, had a number of issues trying to get a dyno run with the jb+ with regards to drivetrain error, since then fitted a bluespark and a decat and heres the numbers
LMAO well your jb+ must be broke because I’ve got a dyno of bluespark and jb+ back to back and the jb+ did 410bhp and the bluespark did 402bhp.
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Its awesome to see some independent comparisons on the same dyno with the JB+ and Bluespark. The figures produced here are pretty much bang on with what we would expect from our unit, and they are also using a V-Tech dyno like ours. Proper graph comparisons on the same dyno are far and away better than comparing peak figures from different dynos.

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Re: JB+ v Bluespark

Post by Samp4856 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:32 pm

eddbluespark wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:37 pm
MrBink1990 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:35 pm
Kyleralph078 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:20 pm
Ive had both and timed both with the same car same driver same fuel, different days so you could argue there may have been a temperature difference, same piece of road but the bluespark for me was faster, also went on a dyno saturday, same dyno as used for the jb+, had a number of issues trying to get a dyno run with the jb+ with regards to drivetrain error, since then fitted a bluespark and a decat and heres the numbers
LMAO well your jb+ must be broke because I’ve got a dyno of bluespark and jb+ back to back and the jb+ did 410bhp and the bluespark did 402bhp.
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Its awesome to see some independent comparisons on the same dyno with the JB+ and Bluespark. The figures produced here are pretty much bang on with what we would expect from our unit, and they are also using a V-Tech dyno like ours. Proper graph comparisons on the same dyno are far and away better than comparing peak figures from different dynos.
Id usually agree with you there, but the numbers on The jb+ There are drastically down on any other jb+ dyno, so not 100% sure on that run, good bs figures though.
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