I hear what you're saying but as a petrol head he won't listen and his love of performance cars will not go away. As an Air Con engineer he has the ability to earn rather good money in London and he has no immediate thoughts of buying his own place. Also it's not as if I need to free up any space being in a 5 bed, 3 storey detached house with a double garage.Kerr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:44 amPersonally I wouldn't be assisting my 21 year old to get into such debt.
Even if he can afford the monthly payments it's much wiser to promote to him to get some money behind him and not start his life in debt.
Buying cars like this when young will just push the affordability of a house further and further away.
He has said that RWD is an unknown to him as he's only ever had FWD, however, one has to learn at some point to drive RWD and as we all know RWD hot hatches are a rare beast. He is seriously considering a Golf R being 4WD. We'll see how he gets on with the M140i on Saturday.Williams327 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:59 amHas he had any rwd experience before? Car just needs to be appreciated more then high powered front or four wheel drive cars.
I owned a golf r at 25 and you can drive the thing like an absolute bellend and it just laps it up. Do the same in my M140i and it would be in a hedge
Just something for him to consider
He has 4 years NCB, therefore he has never claimed on his insurance from passing his test, however, he does have to check out the insurance premiums on these cars.Barney McGrew wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:07 pmI was going to say it's not just the monthly payments, it's the insurance and associated running costs too.
An M140i drinks petrol compared to a Fiesta ST. I'm about 10mpg down on the amount I got from my ST and insurance will be a stinger.
Each to their own though. I had a string of cheap bangers until I got myself sorted, but I'm an old(ish) fart and times have changed and the millennials want everything now regardless. Part of me envy's that if I'm honest though, I would have loved a top performing car at the time but it was so far out of reach and to be honest I probably would have ended up wrapped round a tree anyway.
He's driven his ST hard from new and to be honest with the work he's had done to the ST and the lack of economy he currently gets, the economy or lack of with a M140i won't bother him.
Thanks for all your replies and thoughts and I know he has a lot to think about.
As I said earlier he has grown up around performance cars since he was born as I've had a few: E30 M3's (Evo II and a Sport Evolution), E36 M3, E46 M3, E90 M3, F87 M2, Lancia Delta Integrales, Caterham Super Light R, Impreza P1, Golf GTI's, Audi S3 and a few 1,000 cc sports bikes. So I reckon petrol is in his blood