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Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by ninja_geezer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:34 pm

Hi i know I've read quite a lot on here regarding brake pads moving to and fro between forward motion and reverse causing a clunk. I get a bit of that does not bother me .what does bother me though is every time I come to a complete stop i get a groan/clunk from the front disc/pads I notice this as I do a lot of local town driving with a lot of stops esp in the week when working ..the car has done about 650 miles now, i can virtually feel this in the brake pedal.
my brother said its ok but none of my cars have ever done this, my last Golf R I never heard any sounds from the brakes ever.if you all say this is normal fine I suppose I have to live with it but i suppose on a 40k car I expect better, don't get me wrong the brakes work very well. this happens if i brake like a granny or like a hooligan.also if I'm at a junction or traffic lights and I'm in drive foot on the brake if i let of slowly is not a nice sound, let of fast its nearly silent...i have read lots of threads on the brakes but not exactly with this issue.
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by TRL » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:47 pm

Honestly Ninja, Don't worry buddy.... its a characteristic of the car! as every dealer likes to say... But having had 3 of these in a row and over
20K in Miles so far, they all do it in the main. And my last car (orange Motech M140) was the loudest ever. A bit of pad movement that's all.
And remember that the brakes are fighting the gearbox every time you come to a halt.
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by ninja_geezer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:17 pm

TRL wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:47 pm
Honestly Ninja, Don't worry buddy.... its a characteristic of the car! as every dealer likes to say... But having had 3 of these in a row and over
20K in Miles so far, they all do it in the main. And my last car (orange Motech M140) was the loudest ever. A bit of pad movement that's all.
And remember that the brakes are fighting the gearbox every time you come to a halt.
Ok thanks for the reassurance ...even though you work for BMW .. :D :D
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by BigSwede » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:26 pm

ninja_geezer wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:17 pm
TRL wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:47 pm
Honestly Ninja, Don't worry buddy.... its a characteristic of the car! as every dealer likes to say... But having had 3 of these in a row and over
20K in Miles so far, they all do it in the main. And my last car (orange Motech M140) was the loudest ever. A bit of pad movement that's all.
And remember that the brakes are fighting the gearbox every time you come to a halt.
Ok thanks for the reassurance ...even though you work for BMW .. :D :D
Mine have had plenty of hard use in the first month and 4000 miles and don't make a sound. Proof that running in is nonsense 😂🤣😂🤣😂 (proper scientific!)

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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by ninja_geezer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:39 pm

BigSwede wrote:
ninja_geezer wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:17 pm
TRL wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:47 pm
Honestly Ninja, Don't worry buddy.... its a characteristic of the car! as every dealer likes to say... But having had 3 of these in a row and over
20K in Miles so far, they all do it in the main. And my last car (orange Motech M140) was the loudest ever. A bit of pad movement that's all.
And remember that the brakes are fighting the gearbox every time you come to a halt.
Ok thanks for the reassurance ...even though you work for BMW .. :D :D
Mine have had plenty of hard use in the first month and 4000 miles and don't make a sound. Proof that running in is nonsense ImageImageImageImageImage (proper scientific!)
Tried braking hard makes no difference ....


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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by Blades1977 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:24 pm

Was very loud today when parking up!

Seems to be better in eco, maybe less pressure from the gearbox?

Never had this with the manual :roll:
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by ninja_geezer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:33 pm

Blades1977 wrote:Was very loud today when parking up!

Seems to be better in eco, maybe less pressure from the gearbox?

Never had this with the manual :roll:
Never had with dsg on golf .maybe something to do with autohold .

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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by Blades1977 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:47 pm

ninja_geezer wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:33 pm
Blades1977 wrote:Was very loud today when parking up!

Seems to be better in eco, maybe less pressure from the gearbox?

Never had this with the manual :roll:
Never had with dsg on golf .maybe something to do with autohold .

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Honestly, was so loud today I was a bit worried!
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by ninja_geezer » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:11 pm

Blades1977 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:47 pm
ninja_geezer wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:33 pm
Blades1977 wrote:Was very loud today when parking up!

Seems to be better in eco, maybe less pressure from the gearbox?

Never had this with the manual :roll:
Never had with dsg on golf .maybe something to do with autohold .

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Honestly, was so loud today I was a bit worried!
well im not on my own then sounds the norm ,just 1 person so far who ragged his car for 4k and does not get any... :D
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by Blades1977 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:13 pm

ninja_geezer wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:11 pm
Blades1977 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:47 pm
ninja_geezer wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:33 pm
Never had with dsg on golf .maybe something to do with autohold .

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Honestly, was so loud today I was a bit worried!
well im not on my own then sounds the norm ,just 1 person so far who ragged his car for 4k and does not get any... :D
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by Jahjaman » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:18 pm

Groan is perfectly normal. Although a clunk isn't the same thing.
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by ninja_geezer » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:02 am

Jahjaman wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:18 pm
Groan is perfectly normal. Although a clunk isn't the same thing.
i would say its more of a groan if im honest ..
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by Jahjaman » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:15 am

ninja_geezer wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:02 am
I would say its more of a groan if im honest ..
Then quit your worrying and just enjoy the car! :lol: :lol:

The groaning is just the drivetrain pushing against the brakes. Remember, you won't get the same noise in a DSG because the torque converter is always connected and will want to rotate the driveshaft - even if the RPM is well below the torque converter stall speed. Whereas the DSG will have minimal "drag" and only properly start slipping the clutch when it detects you lifting off the brakes - hence you won't get the same torque going through to the driveshaft at standstill.
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by ninja_geezer » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:20 am

Jahjaman wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:15 am
ninja_geezer wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:02 am
I would say its more of a groan if im honest ..
Then quit your worrying and just enjoy the car! :lol: :lol:

The groaning is just the drivetrain pushing against the brakes. Remember, you won't get the same noise in a DSG because the torque converter is always connected and will want to rotate the driveshaft - even if the RPM is well below the torque converter stall speed. Whereas the DSG will have minimal "drag" and only properly start slipping the clutch when it detects you lifting off the brakes - hence you won't get the same torque going through to the driveshaft at standstill.
yes, i get the bit about the drivetrain pushing against the brakes as you let off ect ,its the sound every time i come to a stop was the main gripe :D
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Re: Is this the norm ? (brakes)

Post by Blades1977 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:39 am

ninja_geezer wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:20 am
Jahjaman wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:15 am
ninja_geezer wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:02 am
I would say its more of a groan if im honest ..
Then quit your worrying and just enjoy the car! :lol: :lol:

The groaning is just the drivetrain pushing against the brakes. Remember, you won't get the same noise in a DSG because the torque converter is always connected and will want to rotate the driveshaft - even if the RPM is well below the torque converter stall speed. Whereas the DSG will have minimal "drag" and only properly start slipping the clutch when it detects you lifting off the brakes - hence you won't get the same torque going through to the driveshaft at standstill.
yes, i get the bit about the drivetrain pushing against the brakes as you let off ect ,its the sound every time i come to a stop was the main gripe :D
Does the groan become less after a few more miles?!
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