The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by carlover » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:08 pm

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Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:22 pm
Out of curiosity I asked one of the local dealers to quote me for a new M135i with a few options. The best they could was £5k deposit £515 pcm on 8k miles per year. I don't see this being a big seller.
yikes...thing is bmws discounts an contributions allow you to get into a car that is far cheaper than equivelant rivals ....re c class jag xe and 3 series only bmws are in my monthly range although the headline price is always near each other.As this will not have any discounts and contributions probably as its brand new its too strong for me

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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Gary_LB » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:18 pm

carlover wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:08 pm
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Out of curiosity I asked one of the local dealers to quote me for a new M135i with a few options. The best they could was £5k deposit £515 pcm on 8k miles per year. I don't see this being a big seller.
yikes...thing is bmws discounts an contributions allow you to get into a car that is far cheaper than equivelant rivals ....re c class jag xe and 3 series only bmws are in my monthly range although the headline price is always near each other.As this will not have any discounts and contributions probably as its brand new its too strong for me
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The discounts will come I’m sure as I doubt BMW will have a choice. The M140/M135 have been priced firmly below their competition for years so they will need to buy their way back in with a new model especially now it’s USP has gone

Regardless of how good the car may be the target audience for this will only pay so much, especially with second hand alternatives such as Golf R, S3 and even A35/45 flooding the market
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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Cobstar » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:17 pm

@bimmerdeals who works with Tony has given me a very attractive quote for an X2 35i so hopefully there’ll be deals on the M135i for those interested.

Still yet to own a straight-6 BMW as my 125i was 4 cylinder and the joint holder of the purse strings thinks the X2 might better complement the current fleet than the X3 M40i.

My current car is a MINI Cooper S with 2.0 litre engine and Aisin 6 speed auto. So feel quite positive about a 300hp + version with 8 speed auto. If I can’t have an X3 M40i ;)

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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Tiberius » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:32 pm

Mooeeey wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:22 pm
Out of curiosity I asked one of the local dealers to quote me for a new M135i with a few options. The best they could was £5k deposit £515 pcm on 8k miles per year. I don't see this being a big seller.
It will be a big seller.

It will be under £450/month with a £450 deposit by spring next year.

Judging its price is too early at this moment is too. No one has taken delivery and pre-reg units aren't on the lots ready to be haggle down. :)
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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by carlover » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:50 pm

As above probably best left alone for a good few months. I remember when the Brand New 125d came out in 2014 at launch the PCP monthly was exactly the same cost as the car I bought a new F30 30d Msport

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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Mooeeey » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:54 pm

Tiberius wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:32 pm
Mooeeey wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:22 pm
Out of curiosity I asked one of the local dealers to quote me for a new M135i with a few options. The best they could was £5k deposit £515 pcm on 8k miles per year. I don't see this being a big seller.
It will be a big seller.

It will be under £450/month with a £450 deposit by spring next year.

Judging its price is too early at this moment is too. No one has taken delivery and pre-reg units aren't on the lots ready to be haggle down. :)
You're probably right. I guess I was just expecting there to be more of an incentive to switch.
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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Invisiblename » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:32 am

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Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:33 pm
Out of interest I contacted BMW Genius about this issue. It seems the UK buyers are going to be forced to pay £800 for leather seats whether they want them or not. Very poor. I love the look of the grey/blue alcantara M Sports seats.

Maybe @TRL could shed some light on this?
That would be a huge mistake by BMW UK as it pushes the price just over the £40k VED threshold with 2 option packs that most people would probably specify otherwise.
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TRL wrote:
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BMW product library for the new F40 shows clearly that Trigon Cloth is the standard option. I think its just a configurator glitch which often happens on newly introduced models. It will be corrected. just not sure when but if anyone orders a new car they can order it with cloth and not have to pay the £800 charge.

M135i xDrive (in addition/replacement to M Sport models)
Diesel Particulate Filter 18" M Double-spoke style 556M Bi-colour alloy wheels
Exhaust tailpipe, Chrome - twin, round 90mm, left and right split BMW Connected Package Pro (includes contents of BMW Connected Package Plus) comprising:
Incorrect fuelling protection system Connected Navigation
Intelligent Functions (depending on vehicle, see details)
120d xDrive (in addition/replacement to 118d) - Engine/Transmission On-Street Parking Information
Eight-speed Sport automatic transmission with electronic selector-lever featuring; BMW Live Cockpit Professional
Integrated mechanical limited slip differential on front axle (Torsen) Display cluster consisting of a fully digital 10.25" instrument display and a high-resolution (1920x720 pixels)
Steering wheel paddles and 10.25" Central control display.
Larger fuel tank (by approximately 8 litres) BMW Operating System 7 with variable, configurable widgets that display information in real time.
Two-stage charging of engine Navigation data on integrated harddrive with map-data updates available via USB interface
xDrive intelligent all-wheel drive Navigation features such as 3D landmarks and micro city models
energy-efficient operating strategy: front axle always driven), rear-wheel drive is switched off completely and activated Intelligent Voice Assistant.
when required within fractions of a second. Door sill finishers with M135i designation, front only
Integrated mechanical limited slip differential on front axle (Torsen) Exhaust tailpipe, Cerium Grey with bevelled finish - twin, round 100mm, left and right split
electro-hydraulically controlled multi-plate clutch transfers drive to rear axle via power take-off device located on the. Interior trim, Illuminated Boston
front differential Kidney grille in Cerium Grey with Mesh design
(capable of transferring max 50% of drive). Drive transfer is variable, seamless and infinitely adjustable between the M logo designation, side - Cerium Grey
front and rear axles. M rear spoiler
M Seats (front)
M seatbelts
M Sport aerodynamic bodystyling including:
Front bumper with M135i xDrive exclusive air inlet clasps finished in Cerium Grey (left/right)
Rear bumper with independent design in Body colour with exclusive Black high-gloss diffuser with mesh design
Side sill covers with independent design in Body colour with M135i xDrive exclusive Black high-gloss inserts
M Sport braking system
M Sport multi-function leather steering wheel with three-spoke design
M Sport steering with M135i xDrive specific settings
M Sport suspension with M135i xDrive specific settings
Mirror caps in Cerium Grey
Seat heating for driver and front passenger
Trigon Cloth/Alcantara Anthracite upholstery
This is great news because taking the £800 off brings the retail price below the £40k threshold, even when pretty heavily spec’d with options! (Apologies for the slightly corrupted list, copied & pasted direct from a PM!)
M140i Mineral Grey / Corel Red, auto, Adaptive Suspension, Pro Media, heated seats & wheel, Sunroof, reverse camera, assisted park (now THAT''S scary!), Harman Kardon, CarPlay
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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Maybebmw » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:46 am

Mooeeey wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:22 pm
Out of curiosity I asked one of the local dealers to quote me for a new M135i with a few options. The best they could was £5k deposit £515 pcm on 8k miles per year. I don't see this being a big seller.
Umm, hands up who's prepared to give up there 3.0 6cycl RWD 1 series with over 340bhp for an uglier version with a 2.0 4pot and 300bhp - and pay over £100 p/m for the privilege! Anyone........no guessed not. £500+ p/m for one of these sounds most unappealing!

BMW have priced it wrong and will be forced to adjust it to well under 35k to attract sales. With so much virtually identical competition, all offering the same buyers in the market for a 2.0 4pot 300bhp AWD hatch will most likely make there choices based on the monthlies. 135/A35/S3/Golf R. Cant really split them, the one that's 350-395 p/m will probably be the bigger seller.
Also plenty of 2.0 4pot FWD, more "engaging" cars very competitively priced around too
M140 with a few extra's

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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Mooeeey » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:31 am

I've seen a couple of lease options cropping up for around £350pcm with £3,000 deposit for a base spec car. I think someone posted a pcp example from one dealer of £499 pcm and £499 deposit, so there are some better options to be had. The BMW website is now saying £458.44 pcm with a 5k deposit if you use the configurator and choose no options.

Hopefully TRL will be able to offer something better soon.
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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by mitford » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:37 am

Mooeeey wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:22 pm
Out of curiosity I asked one of the local dealers to quote me for a new M135i with a few options. The best they could was £5k deposit £515 pcm on 8k miles per year. I don't see this being a big seller.
Blimey, you can get an X3 m40i or m40D with some options for that price
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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Maybebmw » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:00 pm

mitford wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:37 am
Mooeeey wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:22 pm
Out of curiosity I asked one of the local dealers to quote me for a new M135i with a few options. The best they could was £5k deposit £515 pcm on 8k miles per year. I don't see this being a big seller.
Blimey, you can get an X3 m40i or m40D with some options for that price
Very true - with a 5k deposit and 5?? p/m there are many many options. Add some nice options to an M135 and you are nearing M2 Comp monthlies
M140 with a few extra's

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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Feeps » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:13 pm

The misses is coming to the end of her F20 118i M Sport PCP, 40 out of 48, even though we got an okay deal on it at the time (£24k rrp to £21k, £0 deposit £299pm) factory order she is still 2400 neg equity and not looking to get any smaller by the time we are on month 48! Upon requesting a settlement quote to which the dealer gets an email that we have done so, they make contact asking if they could do anything. Told them about the neg equity, they said "its okay we can VT it". I thought VTing put a black mark next to your credit file, or is that only if you instigate it rather than the dealer? Rather put off from doing VTing anyhow.

Looking at a 118i M Sport (zero options) - £27400 after £1k discount.

This is an extra £6400 to get into the bottom model BMW than it did last time, they have well and truly priced them out of our willing to go to budget. With the move to FWD which they touted as "cost saving" "cheaper to make" it seems this hasn't been passed on at all.

The 320i M Sport, better engine, better interior, better tech as standard (auto box, live dash) is £31k after discounts... for the extra £3500ish, and a higher GFV, it is almost cheaper to get into a 320i. So I have asked the local dealer to price one up better than £31k and get back to me. Their website states the "New Car Offer" page is £399pm £3999 deposit @ £36k otr. Not really an offer when it is full rrp!

If we can't get the price to something similar to what we are paying now then we will just have to step away from the brand as the 1 is just not worth that amount of money with the lack of tech and good engine.

Roll on month 48 so we can give it back and wash our hands of it, probably going to look at the Seat Ateca FR Sport 1.5 EVO Auto @ £25k after discounts as that seems to come with alot of spec for a lot less than the rivals.
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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by carlover » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:25 pm

Re feeps post and vt...I really do like to be a good little boy when it comes to credit worthiness.You read stories of people constantly vt ing their cars with no issues...may be wrong of course but I just dont buy into this no harm to your credit schtik.A jaguar salesman once said do it twice and you would be stuffed with their finance.

Is it me or is the retail prices of cars like BMW Jag Merc that arent poverty spec etc really creeping up and are they really worth it. . .is it time to come down a level and look at car man. that are far cheaper but still get good reviews I have a 64 plate bought from new 3 series 30d and re London diesel hate will have to get rid in a year or so as its euro 5 and I really have not got a clue what to buy..dont want to buy anything really its been a great car in every respect powerful and 50+ mpg all day long on the long journeys I do re 30k a year.

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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Mooeeey » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:28 pm

Feeps wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:13 pm
I thought VTing put a black mark next to your credit file, or is that only if you instigate it rather than the dealer?
EDIT: It will appear on your credit record, but no details of why it was ended early will be displayed. So in theory it will have no detrimental impact on your credit rating.

However, technically the lender you VT with has the right to refuse you credit in the future. So if you're using BMW finance it could cause you issues in getting credit from them again. How often this actually happens, well I'm not sure.
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Re: The New BMW F40 M135i xDrive 5 door Auto for 2019

Post by Johnnyo » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:56 am

I VTed my 120d (BMWFS) at 32mths and then purchased a M140 (BMWFS) - no issue at all.. I'm at VT point on 140 next month but nothing i fancy!

It doesn't affect credit report/worthiness etc and lets be honest the finance house don't really lose money...
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