Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by sootyvrs » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:01 pm

Maniax wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:12 pm
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/feat ... -fun-drive
Autocar seems to think the M2 LCI has updated and improved suspension too.
Interesting...
It is worth saying, incidentally, that this facelifted M2 is a big improvement over the early models, which suffered the same lack of body control that many recent high-performance BMWs have exhibited. This later car is much more confidence-inspiring. Where the M2 really gets one over on the M135i, though, is the stability and poise you feel in corners.
As mentioned earlier I checked a few REALOEM parts (not all mind that would take too long :lol: )

I'm curious if there may have been some changes, perhaps as simple as different bushes that could have changed or indeed that the press has just got it wrong because of different curcumstances e.g. tyres or the road conditions

I understand that when the press get hold of BMW "press" cars if they get some briefing from BMW about any changes before they get into the cars when reviewing?
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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by Blind Pugh » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:33 pm

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So variables are either change of component part suppliers w/o any part # changes, springs, tyres and or ePAS/TC/Active Diff FW updates.

Whilst sifting thru Realoem, I noticed M3/M4 ePAS rack has had several iterations and the latest fitted to all cars post July 2017 is shared part with M4 GT4 car. Maybe this and other tweaks are being saved for M2 Comp due later this year ?
According to this bimmerpost thread there's assorted coding variables for F8x cars - non ZCP, ZCP, GTS and even F87CS......
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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by CaptFish » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:46 pm

Is this not the usual nonsense from the motoring press. When a new model comes out it will be praised for its improvements, the moment the facelift is out the same improvements are suddenly weaknesses which have been miraculously been addressed by the facelift.
As an example, I can't recall how many times I read that the new, newer, newest ( use whichever you see fit) Audi A4 now has NO understeer and is better to drive. Lo and behold it still understeer and will do so forever.
Motoring press tells you what the car companies want you to hear.
I have a LCI M2 btw, not bothered and don't know if it's better or not.

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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by Japper_M2 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:56 pm

sootyvrs wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:01 pm
Maniax wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:12 pm
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/feat ... -fun-drive
Autocar seems to think the M2 LCI has updated and improved suspension too.
Interesting...
It is worth saying, incidentally, that this facelifted M2 is a big improvement over the early models, which suffered the same lack of body control that many recent high-performance BMWs have exhibited. This later car is much more confidence-inspiring. Where the M2 really gets one over on the M135i, though, is the stability and poise you feel in corners.
As mentioned earlier I checked a few REALOEM parts (not all mind that would take too long :lol: )

I'm curious if there may have been some changes, perhaps as simple as different bushes that could have changed or indeed that the press has just got it wrong because of different curcumstances e.g. tyres or the road conditions

I understand that when the press get hold of BMW "press" cars if they get some briefing from BMW about any changes before they get into the cars when reviewing?
I checked the full rear assembly and not a jot of difference.

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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by sootyvrs » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:10 pm


Japper_M2 wrote:
I checked the full rear assembly and not a jot of difference.
Could be that Conti's are rubbish and Michelins make the improvements or vice versa Image


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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by Japper_M2 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:18 pm

sootyvrs wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:10 pm
Japper_M2 wrote:
I checked the full rear assembly and not a jot of difference.
Could be that Conti's are rubbish and Michelins make the improvements or vice versa Image


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That was my initial thoughts, however all early ( first year ) was only MPSS. it’s only now that it’s a lottery. Never heard anyone saying continue are better than MPSS.

Could be they got a fresh car and not one that has been journalist battered, or maybe one with a few miles on that the suspension has settled ?

More likely, it’s pure road tester drivel.

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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by Shandy » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:00 pm

I didn't notice a big difference between the pre LCI car that I test drove and the LCI that I bought. It seems unlikely that the part spec would change without the part number changing.

There is always an expectation that the journalists will say something complimentary about the new/improved cars that they get access to, and the odd mistake might slip in.

The reviews always seem to keep getting better, but I think that is partly due to the journalists gradually getting more time in the car and in the F series M cars in general.

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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by OrtonM135i » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:22 pm

Yeah it’s hard to tell as every road test, review or test drive is done in different cars with different mileage which has an impact on the feel of the suspension.

I’ve found the suspension has changed maybe by 10-20% from when I first drove out do the dealership.

My 67 plate has just done 7,000 miles and seems it’s really well settled on the springs now so feels more compliant and better controlled, smoother handling and better at dealing with poor roads or high frequency bumps. During the first 3000 miles it was still a bit too firm for most uk roads.

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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by OrtonM135i » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:54 pm

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/feat ... -fun-drive

This review of the LCI M2 vs modified M135i also mentions improvements in M2 suspension...



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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by Japper_M2 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:04 pm

OrtonM135i wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:54 pm
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/feat ... -fun-drive

This review of the LCI M2 vs modified M135i also mentions improvements in M2 suspension...



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Already posted above.

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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by OrtonM135i » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:05 pm

Japper_M2 wrote:
OrtonM135i wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:54 pm
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/feat ... -fun-drive

This review of the LCI M2 vs modified M135i also mentions improvements in M2 suspension...



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Already posted above.
Lol sorry missed that, attention to detail has never been my strong point


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Re: Seems there may have been suspension revisions LCI?

Post by FishFingers » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:09 pm

To be honest, I wouldnt give an ounce of credibility to anything mentioned in Auto Express or Autocar.

The Daily Star and Daily Express of motoring journalism imo.

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