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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by jono400 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:35 pm

Okay was ready to order the wheels with mark earlier today but he now informs me that
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225/40 front with an et35 is going to run very flush with the arch normally we would recommend a 215/40 to be on the safe side but its up to you, otherwise you could go for the et45 front and use a 5mm spacer to make et40 which would be find with the 225/40, the spacer does not affect the hub location so only a universal one is needed, they are £25 a pair inc the bolts.But its up to you. Maybe the 225/40 will be ok on the et35 but just want you to be aware!

so 225/40 on the et35 okay or is it the et45 with 5mm spacer route ?? Argh :roll: :)
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by Sonic1506 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:39 am

If you were based in London I'd tell you just to come to mine for a test fit of my wheels on yours. Then makes it easier to gauge tyre sizes?

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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by jono400 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:03 am

Okay thanks so much again mate you've very helpful with my never ending list off questions :oops: what's your own take on it with the et35 and 225/40 going to be sitting very flush, go for the et45 and the 5mm spacer or will the et35 be fine ? I take it when they say it will be sitting very flush with the arch its on the limit and any more and it would be poking out beyond the arch and obviously be illegal / mot fail ?
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by Sonic1506 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:33 am

jono400 wrote:Okay thanks so much again mate you've very helpful with my never ending list off questions :oops: what's your own take on it with the et35 and 225/40 going to be sitting very flush, go for the et45 and the 5mm spacer or will the et35 be fine ? I take it when they say it will be sitting very flush with the arch its on the limit and any more and it would be poking out beyond the arch and obviously be illegal / mot fail ?
You have 30mm protrusion outside the arch by law BUT the tyre tread MUST be under the arch, hence why people go for stretch in the euro/vag/dub scene, to fit wider wheels and then stretch the tyres to keep the tread under the arch so only sidewall and rim pokes out past the body. I think 225/40 et35 will be close to the arch but you should still clear it. I assume he means arch/tyre/wheel contact, rather than poke?

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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by marco_polo » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:37 am

rob180bhp wrote:A generic guide

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Very useful, thanks Rob. Is that from the new MOT guidelines?

Jono400, I'm running 8" rims on mine. Initially I had 225 on the front, but they offered very little rim protection. On the first kerb SWMBO kissed they were fubar. I'm now running 245 on them (max width) which will take a reasonably hard contact without marking.
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by jono400 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:59 am

Yep thanks that's another thing I was kinda worried about with the rim being so exposed on the front , so with the zito 935 alloys having a 8.5" front then you saying for rim protection I would be better to go for something a bit wider than the 225/40 yes ? if I was to go for a 245/40 front instead thus giving more rim protection would this mean the tyre would be even further out from the arch which was obviously a concern with the et35 with the 225/40 tyre ? and would it be stretched even more or less stretch ?

hoping to get this ongoing saga sorted out today and get these things ordered :roll: would have been easier just changing to a 3 series and having a wider choice off alloy fitments :lol:
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by marco_polo » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:04 am

If kerb damage is a concern, I'd be going for a thin 245/35 (not Michelin, etc) on the ET45 rim, with the thinnest spacer that works (3mm maybe?). Hope they clear the arch....

Or just a slightly thinner wheel in the first place, any reason you want 8.5" fronts?
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by Sonic1506 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:21 am

marco_polo wrote:If kerb damage is a concern, I'd be going for a thin 245/35 (not Michelin, etc) on the ET45 rim, with the thinnest spacer that works (3mm maybe?). Hope they clear the arch....

Or just a slightly thinner wheel in the first place, any reason you want 8.5" fronts?
Zito 935's only come in 8.5" and 9.5" IIRC.

I've run 9" fronts and 10" rears on my 1 Series before. I've only kerbed my wheels with stretch tyres once (3 different cars). My own stupid mistake, thinking I could fit through a gapm but was too close to the kerb after 6 years of driving. sh*t happens.

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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by marco_polo » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:06 pm

sh*t does happen. But sometimes sh*t is avoidable.

I thought this group buy was now open to more options, rather than just Zito's? Nothing narrower than 8.5"?
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by Sonic1506 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:13 pm

marco_polo wrote:sh*t does happen. But sometimes sh*t is avoidable.

I thought this group buy was now open to more options, rather than just Zito's? Nothing narrower than 8.5"?
Ironically, the wheel I kerbed had the tiniest bit of stretch ever :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:. Oh well, sh*t happens :), gives me and excuse to get them refurbed ;).

It is, but Jono400 wanted Zito 935's, hence only commenting in that regard, saying that I'm pretty sure 8.5" and 9.5" are the only sizes available.

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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by jono400 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:58 pm

Okay spoke to mark again today and with mutual agreement the last remaining set off zito 935 alloys are now away to a new home but sadly not mine :lol:
no worries thou as had my eye on the similar looking 18" LRN Cyclone in hyper silver which they do in an et35 front and an et40 rear and with an 8" front and 9" rear which may possibly makes things a bit easier with the tyre situation ?!

so okay trying to remember everything I have read and probably forgot a lot but do remember marco_polo saying that a 225 tyre on an 8" front will give no rim protection and that he changed to a 245 and that at least it offers a little bit more protection !

so..... will this 245 tyre size fit on an 8" front without any arch clearance problems, rubbing and is there any stretch ? and with regards the 9" rear , again will the 245 or 255 be okay and again any stretch ?

so sorry if we are going over old ground again when you don't understand a subject is all so hard to take it !! basically just need to know what tyres to buy with et35 8" and an et40 9" ?
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by marco_polo » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:21 pm

Cyclones are an easier fit. 225/40 fronts and 245/35 rears would be the usual solution with these. Normal fit, not much stretching going on there.

Maybe ask Mark & Carrie which tyres come with the largest rim protector bar currently? Are you a regular parallel parker?
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by jono400 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:03 pm

Okay cheers mate yep appreciate you are saying a 225/40 front and 245/35 rear is a normal fit with these 18" LRN cyclone wheels with not much stretch the only thing is due to your earlier comment regarding you saying you changed from a 225 to a 245 on your 8" wheels due to the rim being exposed would this be the case with my wheel ?

regarding tyres not sure if he can get others but it was nankangs or uniroyal rain sport 3's, obviously the uniroyals taking preference 8) that he offered me with the zito 935 package.
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by marco_polo » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:19 pm

jono400 wrote: would this be the case with my wheel ?
A little bit, not full protection. I wouldn't want to go any wider than 225 front with ET35 though.

How much parallel parking do you do?
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Re: BM Autosport Group Buy

Post by jono400 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:41 pm

Okay thanks again , think I will stick with the 225 /40 front and go for the 245/35 rear which will hopefully work out fine with no rubbing etc.

p.s just heard back from mark just now and he says that normally with the LRN cyclones they would fit a 225/40 rear so it has some stretch for clearance , says there is room but just doesn't know how much room ? so is not 100% sure on the rear 245/35
you reckon the 245/35 will fit ?
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