RETROFITTING FACTORY BLUETOOTH......

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Re: RETROFITTING FACTORY BLUETOOTH......

Post by showstopper » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:39 am

redwizard wrote:No, you're probably right in your case.

It just gets a bit confusing with the differenct types of Pro Hu's or Idrive units and TCU, MULF, MULF2 or Combox in the boot.
Yeah thats what im starting to realise! Thought the pro HU was were all the same!

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Post by deesto » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:40 am

If I'm not mistaken you just need the cable to run from the pro HU, (you need a special connecting block, contact bushes, the mic, etc) through the dashboard, up the passenger side pillar (I think it's the A pillar redwizard said), along the roof lining nearest the windscreen glass and into the front light module and voila!! :)). It's an analogue connection. So no need to worry with fibre optics here. But I can't honestly remember if you connect the mic directly to the mulf2 or the pro HU. The instructions should tell you this ;)
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Re: RETROFITTING FACTORY BLUETOOTH......

Post by redwizard » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:04 pm

The actual length of the mic lead should give a clue as it needs to be a lot longer to reach any box in the boot.

Test everything out before you start pulling the car apart.
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Post by deesto » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:07 pm

redwizard wrote:The actual length of the mic lead should give a clue as it needs to be a lot longer to reach any box in the boot.

Test everything out before you start pulling the car apart.
Oh yeah. Good point :D!!
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Post by zeroid » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:54 pm

showstopper wrote:I was under the impression that I just need to install the mic in the roof\light cluster, run a coax cable from the mic to the bluetooth unit in the boot. Then cable the bluetooth to the MULF with the SMB cable. Code the car and im done. So basically not touching the Pro HU at all.

Have i got this completely wrong?!
This is exactly what I did (MY07 120d, Pro headunit, USB under armrest) and all worked fine, though coding was a bit of a mission. I connected it all up in the boot first to make sure it worked.

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Post by Emeye » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:55 pm

I've just joined the forum as I'm looking to buy a 120d coupe.

One of my first questions was whether it is worth buying a 1er with the options I want, or how easy are they to fit.

This thread has pretty much answer that question! :(

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Post by redwizard » Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:49 am

Emeye wrote:I've just joined the forum as I'm looking to buy a 120d coupe.

One of my first questions was whether it is worth buying a 1er with the options I want, or how easy are they to fit.

This thread has pretty much answer that question! :(
The expensive and tricky retrofits are xenons and idrive systems, the rest are not too bad though many will require coding.
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Post by deesto » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:44 am

Emeye wrote:I've just joined the forum as I'm looking to buy a 120d coupe.

One of my first questions was whether it is worth buying a 1er with the options I want, or how easy are they to fit.

This thread has pretty much answer that question! :(

Bluetooth retrofit 600 pounds. Alpine retrofit 300. Aero spoiler 300. Xenons 1200 (I think). You do the maths and see if its worth it and whether you can get a vehicle with the specs u want. Personally, next time I'll purchase a vehicle with BT & xenons fitted. It's fun doing your own mods, but I'd rather do them to the exterior or add functionality or change decor than implement basics i wanted to have from the start ;).
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Post by redwizard » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:50 am

Xenon retrofit is around £2000 plus by the time you've fitted everything and included the VAT
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Post by showstopper » Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:13 pm

zeroid wrote:
showstopper wrote:I was under the impression that I just need to install the mic in the roof\light cluster, run a coax cable from the mic to the bluetooth unit in the boot. Then cable the bluetooth to the MULF with the SMB cable. Code the car and im done. So basically not touching the Pro HU at all.

Have i got this completely wrong?!
This is exactly what I did (MY07 120d, Pro headunit, USB under armrest) and all worked fine, though coding was a bit of a mission. I connected it all up in the boot first to make sure it worked.
Thanks for this - so im not mad!

Dont suppose you have all the part numbers? Struggling to find some of the cables.

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Post by zeroid » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:27 pm

They are all on this thread, most of them on the first page of it... but here's the list I kept in my notes:

- Microphone part no 84.31.6.938.762
- 5 x contacts, part number 61.13.0.006.663 (2 for the mic end and 3 for the MULF). Or Audi part number 000-979-010
- Bluetooth antenna part no 84.50.6.928.461
- SMB to SMB cable. BMW item 84.32.0.138.217 can no longer be obtained, so I used stock no 5260443 from RS Components
- 6m of screened pair cable (I used Maplin XR20 cable)

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Post by showstopper » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:56 pm

Thanks zeroid.

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Post by JHZR2 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:42 am

Hello everyone,

New guy here from the USA. Have a 2011 135i convertible, but it was one of the very first MY 2011 cars, built 7/2010, so it has the N55, but not as sure about the sound system.

My car definitely has the bluetooth buttons on the steering wheel, and I ordered it equipped with the USB input as well as the top hifi option. Sounds great and I really like the stereo. It does not have a NAV or idrive or any kind of video screen, what I see on the BMW professional HU is what I know... But it does show data from my iPhone when connected and playing through the Y-cable.

Problem???? I just got an iPhone 5S, which has the lightning connection, and thus won't work with my Y-cable, at least without the $29 Apple converter, which just uses a DAC in it and is likely a compromise compared to doing it via the phone headphone port as line level, or letting the HU do it.

So what to do? Well, honestly I haven't just tried sticking the lightning USB cable into the USB connector and seeing what happens... OK, shame on me for asking the questions before running the experiment... Since supposedly 2011 and later one can just plug iPhones right in with one connector, no Y-cable.

But I have a Y-cable, so I assume it will not work... So weighing my options, and I figured that BT retrofit may be a smart option, which took me here.

Any ideas what I may or may not have, or may or may not need in this vehicle? Ill go out tomorrow AM and look for the BT box, as well as anything else that I should, and report back. Driving hands-free has become enough of an issue here that it seems sensible to bite the bullet (regret not getting BT to start) and retrofit.

Also, I have read reports that the 2011 and newer cars can allow iPhone/ipod operations just with the normal standard USB cable connected, not some fancy Y-cable that does digital control and analog audio. Any idea if some coding or component retrofit would simply allow me to do this? If I can make that work, I might not even need to be as worried about BT.

Thanks!

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Post by WAWAW » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:56 am

Hi,

New member hear.

I purchased a X3 (F25) last August and I wasn't aware at the time that it didn't have Bluetooth. It was a great deal so it wouldn't have deterred me anyway.

I have subsequently been looking for an OEM kit and the only two I have come across are Fiscon 38975 and mObridge M1000 OEM Bluetooth for BMW. I also spoke with my local BMW and they basically said it couldn't be done, surprise surprise!

I had a local company fit the Fiscon kit however they have subsequently removed it as they couldn't get it to function through the I Drive or steering wheel controls thus defeating the object some what. They used the dongle provided which should essentially make the unit plug and play.

I have read one or two write ups on the mObridge and they don't sound too clever, certainly not for the price!

Has anyone been successful in fitting an OEM kit to a X3 (F25) or is the Mulf 2 option a possibility on my car? Any assistance would be appreciated as seemingly my next option would be a Parrot which for obvious reasons I'm reluctant to do.

FYI, my HU is BMW6512 and it must have the optical connection as that is how the Fiscon was installed. There is just the Aux jack in the console and no usb or no CD changer.

Cheers in anticipation.

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Re: RETROFITTING FACTORY BLUETOOTH......

Post by redwizard » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:03 pm

WAWAW wrote:Hi,

New member hear.

I purchased a X3 (F25) last August and I wasn't aware at the time that it didn't have Bluetooth. It was a great deal so it wouldn't have deterred me anyway.

I have subsequently been looking for an OEM kit and the only two I have come across are Fiscon 38975 and mObridge M1000 OEM Bluetooth for BMW. I also spoke with my local BMW and they basically said it couldn't be done, surprise surprise!

I had a local company fit the Fiscon kit however they have subsequently removed it as they couldn't get it to function through the I Drive or steering wheel controls thus defeating the object some what. They used the dongle provided which should essentially make the unit plug and play.

I have read one or two write ups on the mObridge and they don't sound too clever, certainly not for the price!

Has anyone been successful in fitting an OEM kit to a X3 (F25) or is the Mulf 2 option a possibility on my car? Any assistance would be appreciated as seemingly my next option would be a Parrot which for obvious reasons I'm reluctant to do.

FYI, my HU is BMW6512 and it must have the optical connection as that is how the Fiscon was installed. There is just the Aux jack in the console and no usb or no CD changer.

Cheers in anticipation.
Hi and welcome, you are probably the only X3 member on here though. :)

Generally speaking the 1,3 series and the related X versions share similar electrical parts but I can't tell you whether F2x chassis share parts like a MULF2 from the E8x range - it's still a bit soon for F2x owners to start retrofitting parts to their cars yet.

What you require most certainly can be done, but not by a BMW dealer (the computer says no!). A speciallist like Peter http://www.bmwandminispecialist.com/ will be able to carry out the work if you are not up for it yourself.

The OEM retrofit is the best option (FISCon and mObridge are not OEM), but could be expensive if you can't source secondhand parts (E8x MULF2's are just over £300 new but I have "spare" one which any member can have for £100) and the upgrade will need coding into your system.
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