Clutch Judder 1st Gear

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Re: Clutch Judder 1st Gear

Post by Meado » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:22 pm

I can vouch for the clutch slipping method although with the caveat that it obviously causes unnecessary wear on the clutch. I had some judder on my previous 1 series at about 30 - 35k, never slipped though. I was forced to reverse up a very steep and very tight semi gravel road with the car fully loaded once. (Should probably stop taking the car up stupid roads!) This required me slipping the clutch some, felt much improved after and didn't notice the judder ever again until I got rid.

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Re: Clutch Judder 1st Gear

Post by Kierownik » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:12 pm

Slipping the clutch fixed the problem for a while but judder returns every time the very next morning after I take the car for a longer run. A few set offs with higher revs on 1sr usually fix it but I know that this way my clutch won't last very long.
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Re: Clutch Judder 1st Gear

Post by ASB1960 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:24 pm

I don't know your mileage or usage. The one I changed had done 60k. But the first 3 years and 25k were all town use. Lots of stop start and parking due to OHs job.

A point to consider is that is you do it sooner the just clutch may be ok. Do it later and more likely to need DMF too.

In my case the DMF was marginal, but I chose to fo it since it was already stripped down.
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Re: Clutch Judder 1st Gear

Post by Kierownik » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:43 am

ASB1960 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:24 pm
I don't know your mileage or usage. The one I changed had done 60k. But the first 3 years and 25k were all town use. Lots of stop start and parking due to OHs job.

A point to consider is that is you do it sooner the just clutch may be ok. Do it later and more likely to need DMF too.

In my case the DMF was marginal, but I chose to fo it since it was already stripped down.
My usage is mostly short runs and 2-3 times a week longer motorway run. It's all good until the next morning after I take it on motorway. Then I need to set off on 1st 2-3 times with revs around 2k rpm and judder goes away. So hardly slipping the clutch really, just a dynamic take off. However this is not the things should be. I owned so many different cars before, some with over 100k miles on the clock and never had clutch issues. This one has under 40k miles on it and I find it hard to even believe that the clutch might need changing. I will probably keep it for a bit and then take it to we buy any car. Can't justify spending all that money on the clutch without having 100% guarantee that this will sort the judder issue. And I've read posts from people who had their clutches changed and judder was back within few thousands of miles. F that.
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Re: Clutch Judder 1st Gear

Post by robin_astro » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:06 pm

Kierownik wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:50 pm
YouthAVFC wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:50 am
Would removing the CDV resolve the juddering in first gear? Just come across an old post of a similar problem


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Apperently CDV doesn't exist on f20's
Has anyone checked if there is a restrictor in the slave cylinder, like this one on the f30 ?
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showt ... ?t=1486773
Since new my M135i has felt like there might be some sort of delay (a kind of 2 stage engagement sensation at times)
2104 M135i 5 door manual EB

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Re: Clutch Judder 1st Gear

Post by Rarebit » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:57 pm

robin_astro wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:06 pm
Kierownik wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:50 pm
YouthAVFC wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:50 am
Would removing the CDV resolve the juddering in first gear? Just come across an old post of a similar problem


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Apperently CDV doesn't exist on f20's
Has anyone checked if there is a restrictor in the slave cylinder, like this one on the f30 ?
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showt ... ?t=1486773
Since new my M135i has felt like there might be some sort of delay (a kind of 2 stage engagement sensation at times)
That's the CDV and not present on the f20
2016 M140i - Melbourne Red + BMWP
2013 M135i - rejected
2007 130i LE - gone
2002 316ti

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Re: Clutch Judder 1st Gear

Post by robin_astro » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:52 pm

Rarebit wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:57 pm
robin_astro wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:06 pm
Kierownik wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:50 pm


Apperently CDV doesn't exist on f20's
Has anyone checked if there is a restrictor in the slave cylinder, like this one on the f30 ?
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showt ... ?t=1486773
Since new my M135i has felt like there might be some sort of delay (a kind of 2 stage engagement sensation at times)
That's the CDV and not present on the f20
True there is not one in line like on previous 1 series eg
https://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209440
but this is hidden in the slave cylinder
2104 M135i 5 door manual EB

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Re: Clutch Judder 1st Gear

Post by Rarebit » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:33 am

Ah, I see what you mean now
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2013 M135i - rejected
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