Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

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Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by jayp7 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:48 pm

Hi all,

I'm a week away from buying my first 1 series, I have a couple of great options and I'm stuck with the decision of older 5 door 130i m-sport or new shape F21 SE also 5 door?

The car will be used mainly on the weekend, I'll be sharing it with the mrs, and the budget is 5-6k max.

I've always loved the look of the E87 but that might be nostalgia kicking in... the F21 is also a great looking car.

As F20 owners I wondered how you guys see the decision and what factors that I'm sure I'm not aware of would you take into consideration.

Can't afford to get this wrong so your opinions would be much appreciated as this decision is doing my head in. :confused1: :banghead:

Much appreciated!

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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by Mr Whippy » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:35 pm

Do you need 5 doors?

Is it a weekend car?

Why not at least try a Z4 2.5/3.0Si?
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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by marco_polo » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:46 pm

What engine for the F21?
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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by jayp7 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:37 pm

Mr Whippy wrote:
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Do you need 5 doors?

Is it a weekend car?

Why not at least try a Z4 2.5/3.0Si?
5 Doors - yes i need the space for people in the back occasionally - and training kit.

Yes its a weekend car but also for work at least two days a week.

I did look at the z4 but I'm not in a life place for a 2 seater - might be baby on the way in the next year. At least with the 5 door I can get a baby seat in if need be.

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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by jayp7 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:54 pm

marco_polo wrote:
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What engine for the F21?
it's a 2 litre petrol...

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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by jayp7 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:20 pm

One question... what is the difference between the f20's with the white/silver line near the fog lights at the front and those without? I presume its SE vs basic spec?

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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by RickN55 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:22 pm

jayp7 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:20 pm
One question... what is the difference between the f20's with the white/silver line near the fog lights at the front and those without? I presume its SE vs basic spec?
Do you mean the silver line like this?
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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by swanny71 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:48 pm

Head - F20
Heart - 130i

I’d go 130i but my circumstances are bound to be different to yours.

Try them both, then have an argument with the Mrs trying to explain and justify your desperate desire to buy the older, less economical, less comfy, less sensible car :)
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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by marco_polo » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:48 pm

F21 125i is a nice car. Lightweight nose gives agile handling.

Very hard to beat an N52 though for power/sound/throttle response.

Neither is a bad choice.
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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by Octavius » Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:11 pm

One thing I would consider is how long you are expecting to keep the car. The E series has been out of production for nearly nine years and some OEM parts are becoming obsolete. Mainly trim parts I admit but it’s a sign of things to come.
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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by jayp7 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:26 pm

RickN55 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:22 pm
jayp7 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:20 pm
One question... what is the difference between the f20's with the white/silver line near the fog lights at the front and those without? I presume its SE vs basic spec?
Do you mean the silver line like this?
Yes exactly Rick! what's the story?

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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by Mr Whippy » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:35 pm

If you’re planning on kids and stuff I’d go for a newer 1er that’s bigger.
You can’t go fast with a baby anyhow.

Plus in the long run it’ll be cheaper to own too.

130i are getting to that age now, lots of expensive jobs that might need doing.
Worth doing, but you need to be commuted to the car long term to justify it imo.
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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by jayp7 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:53 am

swanny71 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:48 pm
Head - F20
Heart - 130i

I’d go 130i but my circumstances are bound to be different to yours.

Try them both, then have an argument with the Mrs trying to explain and justify your desperate desire to buy the older, less economical, less comfy, less sensible car :)
I think you've hit it on the head... Head and heart... doesn't make the decision any easier... need to find a f20 to try. The mrs has been pretty open actually, she's good to sell it in a year if its not right.

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Re: Help! F21 SE or E87 130i ?

Post by RickN55 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:04 pm

jayp7 wrote:
RickN55 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:22 pm
jayp7 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:20 pm
One question... what is the difference between the f20's with the white/silver line near the fog lights at the front and those without? I presume its SE vs basic spec?
Do you mean the silver line like this?
Yes exactly Rick! what's the story?
They are the "Sport" models below the M Sport, The front and rear of the car has different bumpers than an M Sport giving it a more rounded finish than the sharper edged M Sport bumpers. Generally speaking most Sports about have less spec on them bordering base spec compared to a lot of M Sports but they can be the same depends what the 1st owner chosen from the factory. But having said that I've seen some Sport models with a lot of spec on seen one the other day had posh nav, xenons with the angel eyes, sun protection and drive comfort package with front and rear sensors.

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